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    Quote Originally Posted by MiriRynendaith View Post
    In addition to the increased gap, the PvE Expert / Battle Mentor should have a quota as well.

    The Following recommendation would be as follows:
    - 20 Mentor Roulette a week
    - 15 Commendations gained a week
    Congratulations! You've just removed all Mentors from the game.
    Every. Single. One.

    I could swallow 1 Mentor Roulette a week, not 20, I don't run 20 of ANY roulette in a given week.

    As for raising the collectibles/commendation requirements.
    Maybe the current goals are a little low, but it's entirely possible to be an endgame crafter and have made barely any collectibles. They're not required for crafting, only script turn ins, which are only required for a few niche items, and aren't at all difficult to do anyway.
    Likewise, commendations don't really mean all that much, people can 'farm' them, and 3,000 is simply a needlessly long grind that isn't going to be representative of whether or not someone is a good mentor.

    This is simply gatekeeping.
    By continuously increasing the requirements for Mentor status, you ensure that only the players who have been here the longest have a chance at being a Mentor. Except that you don't need to have played since ARR was current in order to be an expert at this game, or be helpful to newbies.
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    Last edited by Seraphor; 03-08-2021 at 09:28 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    Congratulations! You've just removed all Mentors from the game.
    Every. Single. One.
    You say that as if it is a bad thing. :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Awha View Post
    You say that as if it is a bad thing. :P
    Well there wont be anyone left to do Mentor roulette for one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    Congratulations! You've just removed all Mentors from the game.
    Every. Single. One.
    Not at all. All you've removed is a bunch of entitled people who like having a crown next to their name.

    The real mentors are the players who are out there helping other players because they want to. They don't worry about meeting a bunch of requirements so they can have a crown next to their name.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    Not at all. All you've removed is a bunch of entitled people who like having a crown next to their name.

    The real mentors are the players who are out there helping other players because they want to. They don't worry about meeting a bunch of requirements so they can have a crown next to their name.
    People who help others... will help others regardless.
    We're talking about the Mentor system, and Mentor roulette.

    What people don't seem to be grasping here, is that you don't need a crown to help others out. And you shouldn't have to go looking for someone with a crown to ask for help either.
    All of this 'only the best people should get the Mentor crown' is just another form of feeling entitled to have that crown. Except instead of 'I have a crown because I've played the game for a while', it'll be 'I have a crown because I'm a better person than everyone else' and that's just as toxic, if not more so.
    Mentors know the mentor system is easy to get into, they know they didn't earn their crown, they don't expect people to hold them in any higher regard because of it, usually. Under this proposal to police the behaviour of Mentors, which will not work out the way you imagine it will, 'Mentor' will be a mark of a self-righteous knowitall.
    Novice network is already a clique, this will make it even worse, as those self-righteous enough to be there will feel all the more justified in gatekeeping it from others.

    Mentor roulette serves it's own purpose. To fill queues for things that aren't typically on other roulettes (as well as those that are) and to provide an additional incentive for filling those queues.
    By kicking people out of the mentor system, you're not stopping people from giving bad advice, or improving the quality of the help people receive, or making it any easier for people to find help.
    All you're doing, is preventing people from accessing Mentor Roulette. Stopping people from accessing content in the game.
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    Last edited by Seraphor; 03-08-2021 at 09:10 PM.