Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[Liam_Harper]

Devil's advocate for a moment. Thinking outside the box only sounds good on the forums. Thinking outside the box in-game will often get you scorn from other players.

Personally I think it'd be a shame being afraid to play efficiently because someone who has no idea how the game works might scorn you. When I've played DNC in DR sometimes I've even switched mid-pull from the dps over to the tank or healer because they're using Essences and Actions and doing far more damage. If the dps or anyone in my group scorned me, I'd explain, point to the enmity meter and stick with what I was doing. I'd never choose to play badly out of fear of ridicule. Similarly I've had some great DNC's who have switched over from dps to my WHM and AST's who treated me like a favorite child with their cards, which only helps the run.

DNC's in particular fall into 2 categories. The DNC who looks at every factor from gear, dps, uptime and chooses their dance partner carefully and the DNC who follows the Balance priority list even if their partner dies 6 times and is 50ilv lower than the rest of the group. DR in particular is designed to encourage thinking outside the traditional boundaries of tank, healer, dps and set rules. A dps could become an amazing healer or a healer the best dps in the raid.

I really think they should start putting a pop-up at the start of DR suggesting the use of essences, that way MAYBE people will see it and think of using an essence.

I think most know, they just aren't bothered farming one. Ideally Castrum and DR would drop significantly more fragments and we'd have bonus rewards in DR based on passing a certain moderate damage threshold. I don't understand why developers never consider rewarding players for playing well and being innovative. Instead it's punishment such as mettle loss, and taxes such as fragment grind/purchase. No wonder players aren't motivated.

[Pepsi_Plunge]

The argument about using Essences and Lost Actions in DR is more or less the same about using your best raidfood and pots in a normal dungeon. Is any of it necessary? No. In DR (normal) there is only one dps-check at the end of queen's guards and you can beat it without any problems. Unless you are doing Savage you don't need to use them.

Which means the only argument that remains is: it makes the run faster. But then again, using your best pure essence over the low budget essence makes the run even faster but you usually see nobody doing that. Same as why nobody is taking pots in an level 80 dungeon. Or raid tier buff food: Because they see it as a waste. Which is the same reason why some people are taking no essence/actions to DR to begin with: why collect them when you can do the run normally and just sell your fragments on the MB?

So the point that needs clearification is: what amount of investment is reasonable for the content and who's going to define that?

[Avatre]

I think most know, they just aren't bothered farming one. Ideally Castrum and DR would drop significantly more fragments and we'd have bonus rewards in DR based on passing a certain moderate damage threshold. I don't understand why developers never consider rewarding players for playing well and being innovative. Instead it's punishment such as mettle loss, and taxes such as fragment grind/purchase. No wonder players aren't motivated.

They definitely should be rewarding people with more fragments in DR. You should get at least 1 of them per fight. Still make it RNG, but have it so you are guaranteed to get 1 per fight. There's what, 6 different types in DR? Though...I am missing one of them, whichever one is below Deep Essence of the Aetherweaver. Not entirely sure where/what that one is/comes from.

[Awha]

Removing the name is more so to protect yourself from potentially getting temporary suspension from the forums. You do you though.

Just wondering what dungeon was this?

[IDontPetLalas]

Doesn't really matter which dungeon it was. I haven't ever experienced this.

At a certain point, people that continue to talk are just adding fuel to the fire, Better to just stop talking and not escalate things further, or just leave, especially if someone is especially easily stressed (for whatever reason)

[Awha]

Doesn't really matter which dungeon it was. I haven't ever experienced this.

At a certain point, people that continue to talk are just adding fuel to the fire, Better to just stop talking and not escalate things further, or just leave, especially if someone is especially easily stressed (for whatever reason)

I mean depending on the dungeon the cutscenes are rather short so no real harm in pulling without a healer present all that often since not like someone will be without a healer for a long time depending on the dungeon. This could have been an issue of someone making a mountain out of a mole hill.

Though some do have longish cutscenes so that could be a problem.

[Cincierta]

I mean depending on the dungeon the cutscenes are rather short so no real harm in pulling without a healer present all that often since not like someone will be without a healer for a long time depending on the dungeon. This could have been an issue of someone making a mountain out of a mole hill.

Though some do have longish cutscenes so that could be a problem.

I just read through that one post and I'm going to guess it's Tam-tara hard, as that one has a bit of a longer cutscene for the boss intro. Normal isn't that long.

Edit: holy sh*t I'm S-M-R-T smart, just noticed the loot drop roll. This is Tam-Tara normal. DX

[Awha]

I just read through that one post and I'm going to guess it's Tam-tara hard, as that one has a bit of a longer cutscene for the boss intro. Normal isn't that long.

Gotcha, the arcanist part threw me off.

[Ceridwenae]

Gotcha, the arcanist part threw me off.

Think it's just the normal one if it's still an ACN (who can keep another player alive - don't think Physick at lvl 50 is going to save much more than paper cuts if was T-T hard) and one player says they're still really new. The Cthulhu wannabe is on the Eternal Calm platform at the end (of normal).

Also, @Malmstrom: I get you're angry and/or upset, but Awha's first response to you is correct, and I concur: please edit your post and remove the names. It's not worth getting yourself into bother over and potentially getting even more negative repercussions from the incident.

[Ursa_Vonfiebryd]

Unhappy Times

While what happened was frustrating and mortifying (because I get the social anxiety issue--two of my very good friends and players of this recently died from it) 'we people' are a mixed bag. You're just as likely to run into someone nice than to run into this kind of thing. Also keep in mind that this is an MMO, so not the best game for social anxiety as by it's very genre, it is made for lots of player interaction. They have implemented a lot content that you can solo or do as a fixed group. Palace of the Dead is one you can solo for leveling and if you level your squad, you can run solo 50-60 content as well. Then there's Trusts at 71-80.

That was a crappy instance but this is an MMO so it's to be expected that not every interaction is going to be a great one. You agreed to that when you subbed. I hope your future endeavors are more chill but it's the risk you take when playing a game like this.