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  1. #30481
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    Fayt1203's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    A'shtola Rhul
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    Zodiark
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Awha View Post
    Sorry forgot to add a :P

    I was joking around since I often see people check out thinking no one dies.
    pew good to know u had me worried there for a moment XD
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    The seas continue to rise while the lesser moon continues to fall, and ilm by ilm, the world becomes ever more unlike itself, without the illumination of knowledge, we but vainly flail as specters in the dark.

  2. #30482
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    Liam_Harper's Avatar
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    Liam Harper
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    Zodiark
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    White Mage Lv 90
    DR constantly surprises me how unable people are to think outside the box.

    Got a group with 3 AST's. I went Profane WHM and poured dps Lost Actions into the run. Instantly ripped aggro on every occasion the tank went down and up top on the enmity meter ...0 cards the entire run, all went to the noodle dps without essence or themselves.

    It's DF, you have to get used to that sort of thing and the run went fine. But still :l
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  3. #30483
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    Rein_eon_Osborne's Avatar
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    Mira Clearweaver
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    Jenova
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
    DR constantly surprises me how unable people are to think outside the box.

    Got a group with 3 AST's. I went Profane WHM and poured dps Lost Actions into the run. Instantly ripped aggro on every occasion the tank went down and up top on the enmity meter ...0 cards the entire run, all went to the noodle dps without essence or themselves.

    It's DF, you have to get used to that sort of thing and the run went fine. But still :l
    Sometimes I wonder if it's the inability to think outside the box, or simply lack of will to divert brainpower to actually think, at all.
    My daily relic grind of DRs yesterday as an AST literally matched me with a party full of essence-less DPSes. (1 Healer & 7 DPS compo)
    No, I didn't went Profane because that'd be crazy of me, just Aetherweaver. I died once to a tankbuster because a tank from another party died to doom and apparently I was 2nd in aggro list, and yet I was relatively fast enough to jump to 2nd and eventually 1st in enmity list in my own party after being resurrected with the weakness. None of my cards were given---I ate all the cards for myself. ./shrug
    ~54m... not the worst, still too long for comfort however...
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  4. #30484
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    Lium's Avatar
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    Brielle Artemus
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    Exodus
    Main Class
    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
    DR constantly surprises me how unable people are to think outside the box.

    Got a group with 3 AST's. I went Profane WHM and poured dps Lost Actions into the run. Instantly ripped aggro on every occasion the tank went down and up top on the enmity meter ...0 cards the entire run, all went to the noodle dps without essence or themselves.

    It's DF, you have to get used to that sort of thing and the run went fine. But still :l
    Devil's advocate for a moment. Thinking outside the box only sounds good on the forums. Thinking outside the box in-game will often get you scorn from other players.
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  5. #30485
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    Avatre's Avatar
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    Avatre Drakone
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    Cactuar
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    Dancer Lv 100
    I really think they should start putting a pop-up at the start of DR suggesting the use of essences, that way MAYBE people will see it and think of using an essence. Probably won't help, and will cause everyone to come to the forums/reddit/twitter/wherever they decide to go just to bitch and moan about a pop-up that is trying to help them be more efficient at something.
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  6. #30486
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    hobostew's Avatar
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    Astrid Arkwright
    World
    Brynhildr
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    Monk Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Lium View Post
    Devil's advocate for a moment. Thinking outside the box only sounds good on the forums. Thinking outside the box in-game will often get you scorn from other players.
    That specific content is designed for people to do just that though? Personally I'd wager the problem is how much harder it is to get Skirmisher essences compared to the others so people aren't willing to shell out the money or time for a small chance they might get a few to use.
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  7. #30487
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    Lium's Avatar
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    Brielle Artemus
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    Exodus
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by hobostew View Post
    That specific content is designed for people to do just that though? Personally I'd wager the problem is how much harder it is to get Skirmisher essences compared to the others so people aren't willing to shell out the money or time for a small chance they might get a few to use.
    Even in Bozja you can get flamed a bit for not sticking to the script, so to speak. And that's not the fault of the game. Like you said, Bozja is designed for playing differently. But players are players. And they will always figure out the "optimal" way to play certain content. And if you deviate from that, you could get scorn.
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  8. #30488
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    SwordswornFox's Avatar
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    Khudaj'a Surenhai
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    Siren
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Well...it happened...a Brayflox that brought out the traumatic memories....

    AST, x2MCH(me and gf), and a...GLD.

    First set of trash he shield lobs one as he runs towards it, gf and I pause and then both focus fired on the same mob and it comes hurtling towards us. No 'voke, no shield lob, no attempt to bring it back to the group. Could be multiple reasons on this, but it sets the tone.

    We get to the first boss and just parks himself in front of the Ziz; no movement, no add gathering, nothing. We get through it but we're questioning things.

    Get to the drake bosses. again tanks in the middle of the room no movement or placement but we burn through the add and the boss fairly quickly.

    Next room he just takes off at a sprint down the path to the frog and we wipe, charges into the Piesste(sp) group and moves close enough to aggro one of the slightly wandering groups. We wipe. next charge through we get to the frog. Knowing th tank won't do any movement the healer and us space ourselves well and we get through past the frog till the dragon drops on gld and he doesn't dodge his line aoe...I spend the next minute running like a Miqo'te with his tail on fire as the dragon chases me while my gf and the healer burn him down.

    We get to the final boss room, healer does the polite thing about reminding the tank to pull the dragon out of it's puke. Tank Kamikaze's in, we get 3/4 of the way through the bosses hp before we wipe, the tank just not moving the dragon out of the pools. Repeat with the same outcome. Healer initiates kick vote, get WAR replacement, two minutes late dead dragon.

    Right after that my GF didn't want her roulette memory for the day be that so we swap to SAM and RDM...and get Titan. GF thinks she gets clear of the 'Yeet stomp,' next thing she knows she's flying into the lava. Still finish on the first run.

    So we try for round 3 in the roulette...get Stone Vigil with a tank and healer that know what they're doing...phew. peace is restored to the gaming mind.
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    This Fox exercises its right to remain silent when any asks what does it say

  9. #30489
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    Dogempire's Avatar
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    Okami Amaterasuu
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    Faerie
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by hobostew View Post
    That specific content is designed for people to do just that though? Personally I'd wager the problem is how much harder it is to get Skirmisher essences compared to the others so people aren't willing to shell out the money or time for a small chance they might get a few to use.
    In the case of Delubrum I would argue that it doesn't encourage you to think outside of the box because of the 2 hits in 2 minutes means instant doom (And hence death regardless of bulk) debuff.

    Tack onto that the fact that you have to do 15 runs and people are just going to go the path of least resistance just to get it over with because the end isn't anywhere in sight, and you get a formula for people just autopiloting and not caring about group comps and who's running what.
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    Watching forum drama be like

  10. #30490
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    LaughingBanana's Avatar
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    Hikari Youko
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    Tonberry
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    MISSION FAILED SUCCESSFULLY, lol.

    Playing as Paladin, managed to drain the HP of the last boss, Therion, in Amaurot as I am being bathed in its Apokalypsis blast (every other players are already dead, lol). Died, but as soon as the animation for Apokalypsis ended, the boss died too, so we got a victory screen with four of us lying on the floor, ahahahaha.
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