Sounds a day's guildleves give you enough SP to level a class

[Winterclaw]

Simple question, if you did 8 GLs with one class in a day, should you end up with enough SP to reach the next rank (assuming you were starting with 0 or almost 0 over the min for your current rank)?

If you say yes, then it'd take 50-100 days just doing GLs to level one class (depending if you can only do them one every one or two days). So you could level one DoW/DoM and one DoH every day.

If you say no, is that because such rate of gain is too fast or because it is too slow?

[Rydin]

OK, lets take Broken Water and Halatali.... with an 8 person party

Thats 6 leves.... but because everyone doesn't have the same leves offered, you'll generally end up doing all 9 broken water leves and all 9 Halatali leves....
So thats 18 leves
If you're lucky you can do "Dunesfolk For Dinner" at Broken Water more than once, as that is the most SP gotten from a leve, from my experience....
we've generally seen 50k in SP from Broken Water and 10-15k.. maybe 20k if you're lucky from Halatali.....
thats if all 8 people are within 5 ranks so each person is getting party bonus from everyone else.....

So from 50-60k SP on an ok nite, to about 80k in SP on a GREAT nite doing both camps.....
and thats only 6 leves...
You'd still have 2 more leve spots to go do like Iron Lake or something (Great Hoary Toads is a good one)
the top 2 ranks (48 to 49 and 49 to 50) are 100k in SP per rank
but the ranks through the 30's are way less.... So on average, doing just leves every day with a full group and a ton of links, less than a month from 1 to 50...
Doing the leves solo though... wow... that would take a while longer... quite a bit longer actually...

[Xatsh]

I disagree way to easy to level. If anything they need to nerf SP gain from leves by like 20-30%.

A mmo should not be a quick path to endgame... I know WoW has done it like that and everyone is copying that but that is not how a mmo should be. A mmo should a game that is a journey not a quick sprint to endgame. If a normal gamer(20-25hrs a week) are hitting endgame within 2 months it is too fast.

As rydin stated with partys you litteraly get ~2.5 to 3 fold the sp as soloing leves. So you are looking at someone getting 3-6 levels per day with your sp gain, or 2-3 levels at high levels a day... and that is just absurdly fast with a game that has a cap at 50 atm.

[Rentahamster]

It's good that partying gives players more SP. Party play should give more SP than solo play.

Gaining 50-80k SP per leve reset doesn't sound like too much to me. That's one play session every 36 hours. In addition, if you have one rank 50 and the rest of your battle classes are low rank, you're considered gimped compared to other players who have a variety of battle classes leveled.

[Zenaku]

i got 27-37 before they fix the SP gain in the last Patch in about 1week or so. All we did is pick up the leves that give the most SP when you about to get it done stop and return back to the crystal and cancel it. Next level reset you have the same leves again and again. So now with the new SP? i get 1 level per day doing the good leves x2 with my gf which so far i got 39-44 about every leve reset i got a level or 90% of it. so if you have a linkshell and you do leve link and have a lot of players you could easy get 1-50 in 1 and half weeks.

[Rydin]

i got 27-37 before they fix the SP gain in the last Patch in about 1week or so. All we did is pick up the leves that give the most SP when you about to get it done stop and return back to the crystal and cancel it. Next level reset you have the same leves again and again. So now with the new SP? i get 1 level per day doing the good leves x2 with my gf which so far i got 39-44 about every leve reset i got a level or 90% of it. so if you have a linkshell and you do leve link and have a lot of players you could easy get 1-50 in 1 and half weeks.

with no grinding.. I don't know... 2 weeks is even pushing it....
45-50 you'll get 1 level or less per reset... and even if you got 1 full level per reset, thats 1 week by itself (5 resets equal 7.5 days)
and you definitely can't get 1-45 in 3 days

[Shiyo]

I disagree way to easy to level. If anything they need to nerf SP gain from leves by like 20-30%.

A mmo should not be a quick path to endgame... I know WoW has done it like that and everyone is copying that but that is not how a mmo should be. A mmo should a game that is a journey not a quick sprint to endgame. If a normal gamer(20-25hrs a week) are hitting endgame within 2 months it is too fast.

As rydin stated with partys you litteraly get ~2.5 to 3 fold the sp as soloing leves. So you are looking at someone getting 3-6 levels per day with your sp gain, or 2-3 levels at high levels a day... and that is just absurdly fast with a game that has a cap at 50 atm.

I agree 100% with you ^-^ I'm so sick of MMOs being about reaching the level cap asap, and nothing mattering until the level cap. Such boringness, I want to go back to the style FF11 had.

[Jinko]

LOL some of you would rather play a job than a game by the sounds of it.

I'm quite happy with the current SP you get from leves, If it takes people too long to hit end game or a level where there is suficent content (yes this doesn't exsist yet) they will more than likely leave the game.

Such boringness, I want to go back to the style FF11 had.

Go play 11 then, wish people would stop trying to turn this into FF11.

[zaviermhigo]

You can't just take any 8 guildleves, you have to pick and choose, some you needed to fail before (but I stopped doing this, I would never get any money or Guild marks due to having only good leves, which we had to fail to repeat)

[REDace0]

I just feel it needs mentioning that you cannot gain a rank every day from just guildleves in a crafting or gathering class, as the OP's statement implied this.