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  1. #101
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    Liam_Harper's Avatar
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    Liam Harper
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    Zodiark
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Fluxating View Post
    It's not just the drop rates for the hairstyle and mount that are bad, but also the fragments. I've used up pretty much all my offensive actions at this point and only once or twice have I earned any back while in there. I could go and farm some more in the southern front or castrum, but why bother? Why spend a bunch of time farming up resources to just waste them for nothing? I've got a few more runs left to finish off my second weapon and then I'm done with running it.
    The fragment droprate makes no sense in an instance designed to make use of Lost Actions and Essence. The better actions can be quite expensive to stockpile, especially since each fragment has a high chance to give one of the bad Essences or Actions. I've done close to 50 runs of DR and only got 3 of the Pure Essence for melee dps. This means contributing to your team costs you either a lot of grind or gil, which isn't right.

    Bosses should be dropping multiple fragments each with the option to trade more for silver coins. We should be encouraged to have fun using them, not discouraged.
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  2. #102
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    Alijana Tumet
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    Cactuar
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    Ninja Lv 100
    It is kind of silly that it's much more efficient to farm the pure essences on the southern front with clusters then it is running Delubrum itself.

    Even on savage the only guaranteed fragments you receive in bulk are Loss (Which is largely pointless due to how insanely situational Sacrifice is).
    (6)

  3. #103
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    Yuno Hyouka
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    Moogle
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    Pugilist Lv 81
    48 run 2 haircut.
    A well-deserved reward as I spend my time with people who don't take the time to use their potions.
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  4. #104
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    LyraleiManagem's Avatar
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    Skadi Diresight
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    Faerie
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ForteNightshade View Post
    Once again, this reeks of them artificially drawing things out because Shadowbringers has almost nothing left to offer until September/October.
    I won’t say they designed the reward structure poorly. It’s obvious that they designed such reward structure on purpose to extend the lifespan of the content because like you said, there’re no many contents until EW.

    From 1v1 duel to the drop rate to the mettle lost for those attempting to clear DR Savage, all of those are some cheap ways to make people spend more time with the same amount of contents.
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  5. #105
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Behemoth
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    It is kind of silly that it's much more efficient to farm the pure essences on the southern front with clusters then it is running Delubrum itself.
    What, you don't like your 1-2 fragments per 40 minute run?
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

  6. #106
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    Fluxating's Avatar
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    Cali Oran
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    Odin
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    What, you don't like your 1-2 fragments per 40 minute run?
    I'd take 1 -2 a run instead of nothing for 5 - 6 runs in a row.
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  7. #107
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    Mira Clearweaver
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    Jenova
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    I don't know how lucky other people are... but based on what I read from previous posts I'm certainly not so lucky at all.
    Just now the 110th run---give or take, I just finished 7th relic but pretty sure I ran few besides first clear and helping friends before starting the actual quest. So far I've looted nothing but silver coins, dozen of frags, four identical orchestrion roll & bunch of statues. Sadly only the frag sells for decent amount of gil, the rest are "might as well never exist".

    That being said, it hasn't been a big deal personally since the hairstyle is more of a bonus than necessity.. I might just gonna stop running entirely once I finished grinding the relic weapons that I want to get (just three classes left to go).
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  8. #108
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    Fawkes Macleod
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    Excalibur
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    I don't know how lucky other people are... but based on what I read from previous posts I'm certainly not so lucky at all.
    Just now the 110th run---give or take, I just finished 7th relic but pretty sure I ran few besides first clear and helping friends before starting the actual quest. So far I've looted nothing but silver coins, dozen of frags, four identical orchestrion roll & bunch of statues. Sadly only the frag sells for decent amount of gil, the rest are "might as well never exist".

    That being said, it hasn't been a big deal personally since the hairstyle is more of a bonus than necessity.. I might just gonna stop running entirely once I finished grinding the relic weapons that I want to get (just three classes left to go).
    There are statues?!
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  9. #109
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    Pepsi Plunge
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    Lich
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Fawkes View Post
    There are statues?!
    Tabletop chess pieces.
    (0)
    Pepsis Eorzea-Tagebuch:
    https://de.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/22850747/blog/


  10. #110
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    Liam Harper
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    Zodiark
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by LyraleiManagem View Post
    I won’t say they designed the reward structure poorly. It’s obvious that they designed such reward structure on purpose to extend the lifespan of the content because like you said, there’re no many contents until EW.
    The thing is most of us are only running it for the relic right now. Even if it dropped no rewards besides that relic token (it practically doesn't to be honest), we'd still run it the number of times necessary for the relic. Not only is dragging out the content by withholding rewards unnecessary, but if there was a better reward system we might have reason to run it after the relic. They're actually killing the lifespan of DR not extending it, and only the relic is keeping it going for the short term.

    The exact same thing happened with Castrum. Rewards trickled down to "extend the lifespan", making us farm Haste gear for months, but instead it killed the lifespan entirely and required an emergency hotfix.
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