Spoilers: Theory for Pandaemonium Story

[ty_taurus]

I'm pretty certain we already got Zorn and Thorn in the form of the Jongeleur twins in Eulmore - they wore similar outfits, spoke in rythme and were jesters-turned-lackeys for a morbidly obese and antagonistic monarch (they didn't turn into a monster though) - they even had a similar theme, albiet a track from FFIV though (Dancing Doll Calcabrina).

They are certainly a reference to Zorn and Thorn, though they aren't a raid boss or anything. We also haven't seen them since freeing Eulmore... Maybe they could turn out to be more than just other brainwashed Eulmorians.

[Rannie]

They are certainly a reference to Zorn and Thorn, though they aren't a raid boss or anything. We also haven't seen them since freeing Eulmore... Maybe they could turn out to be more than just other brainwashed Eulmorians.

Didn't we kill them when we stormed Eulmore before fat boy grew tiny wings and somehow flew away to Mount Gulg.

[Rosenstrauch]

Didn't we kill them when we stormed Eulmore before fat boy grew tiny wings and somehow flew away to Mount Gulg.

We did. It's really weird, too. Every other NPC was under Vauthry's control except for them. One would think it meant there was something special about them, but then they just... died, and that's the last we ever hear of them.

[ty_taurus]

We did. It's really weird, too. Every other NPC was under Vauthry's control except for them. One would think it meant there was something special about them, but then they just... died, and that's the last we ever hear of them.

Wait, did they die? I think during the Story fight you defeat them, but did it specify that you kill them? Everyone else was just KOed.

[MrThinker]

Wait, did they die? I think during the Story fight you defeat them, but did it specify that you kill them? Everyone else was just KOed.

Alphinaud says something along the lines of "Since these guys aren't mind controlled and are doing this of their free will, we'll show them no mercy." Usually, that means death. Or at least to me it highly suggested death, the same way we killed Ran'jit because he was serving out of free will.