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    Quote Originally Posted by Saefinn View Post
    Or at the very least, clarification on what they consider "profanity" in a game that's rated "teen" with "language" listed as one of the items that makes it so. Because it's obvious some is acceptable. And heck, what my grandmother's generation considered profane and what my generation consider profane don't match up.
    But it's not only your generation that plays the game, is it? The rules need to encompass everyone, young and old, with or without mental health issues. You can attempt that if you like with detailed rules and let me know when (a) you give up, or (b) you spend all your time revising and revising the rules because you didn't include everyone.

    And of course everything is context. If an NPC calls me a Hyuran whatever, I am in my character's head at the point. It may sting a little but not as much as a player in my group calling me names because I failed an easy mechanic. As I said in my earlier post, treat people with dignity and kindness. There are different cultures and people being shocked that other cultures consider things offensive means they need to adapt to more relaxed and kind way of thinking and acting and consider what they are doing. That's the reason the rules are so broad, to cover everyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MagicAura View Post
    But it's not only your generation that plays the game, is it? The rules need to encompass everyone, young and old, with or without mental health issues. You can attempt that if you like with detailed rules and let me know when (a) you give up, or (b) you spend all your time revising and revising the rules because you didn't include everyone.

    And of course everything is context. If an NPC calls me a Hyuran whatever, I am in my character's head at the point. It may sting a little but not as much as a player in my group calling me names because I failed an easy mechanic. As I said in my earlier post, treat people with dignity and kindness. There are different cultures and people being shocked that other cultures consider things offensive means they need to adapt to more relaxed and kind way of thinking and acting and consider what they are doing. That's the reason the rules are so broad, to cover everyone.
    That's my point and I am aware people play young and old, one of the people in my circle is a woman of her 70's...that said she's not one to be offended what comes out of me.

    What I consider offensive is different to the next person. Hence I think some clarification or clearer information on what they act on could be helpful.

    There are of course things that are obvious and take common sense, like, don't go around throwing racial slurs.

    But I think there are things that aren't obvious. And there are things that are clearly acceptable in the game's script, so is it profanity that's banned outright? Or is it profane in the context of what is acceptable in a "Teen: language" game?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saefinn View Post
    That's my point and I am aware people play young and old, one of the people in my circle is a woman of her 70's...that said she's not one to be offended what comes out of me.

    What I consider offensive is different to the next person. Hence I think some clarification or clearer information on what they act on could be helpful.

    There are of course things that are obvious and take common sense, like, don't go around throwing racial slurs.

    But I think there are things that aren't obvious. And there are things that are clearly acceptable in the game's script, so is it profanity that's banned outright? Or is it profane in the context of what is acceptable in a "Teen: language" game?
    I think it's much simpler than that. People may have in their circle a certain tolerance for slurs and even swearing because between their friends or in their community it's not considered offensive. Assuming the rest of the world is the same, however, is wrong, especially given that people who use them, know it's swearing that is used in a different manner (or perhaps it's offensive depending on context).

    For me the rule is very simple:

    - Don't use slurs and swearing in public channels when other people may be offended by it.
    - Don't use slurs and swearing in party/alliance.

    That's all there is. Yes, someone may do it because of habit, but perhaps when playing the game it's good to examine one's habits and adapt one's language. All it takes is to be mindful of what one says. It's practice, nothing else.
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