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  1. #81
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    One strike should be removed for every three years of good behavior, that seems fair.
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  2. #82
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jijifli View Post
    You mean like on WoW where that's a thing people have mentioned? Though, I find it strange I never had so much as a warning over there with Blizzard, and I'd argue I've said worse on Blizzard's systems.

    Speaking of saying worse things, There was a small group of players repeatedly harassing me and anyone they found out I was friends with, repeatedly going for months, while the GM's did nothing to stop it (And, as context, this was public slander, accusations of things like being a r*****, etc, pretty arguably worse than the F word).

    Square already proved to me last year with that they don't care about hostility or toxicity or drama or any of that, they only care if you said a swear word. It's somewhat funny, because when I did get my 3 day for swearing, the GM confirmed to me when I gave him (with his permission) copy pasted examples from those times and he admitted himself they should be punishable offenses, yet months of it happened without so much as a warning, far as I could tell by their actions. It only stopped because I jumped ship to WoW to stop getting harassed for a while.

    They can certainly, 100%, do better.
    why do anything for swearing tho? isnt there a profanity filter? there is literally swearing in the games dialogue, suggestive themes at times, so its not 100% child friendly so why with those things in mind would they ban or do any sort of punishment for swearing?
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  3. #83
    Player TurtlesAWD's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuya420 View Post
    why do anything for swearing tho? isnt there a profanity filter? there is literally swearing in the games dialogue, suggestive themes at times, so its not 100% child friendly so why with those things in mind would they ban or do any sort of punishment for swearing?
    This is what I've been saying... enforcement is arbitrary.
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  4. #84
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    Nettle Creidne
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    I think it's crazy that a game rated for teens doesn't have a strike removal policy. There are very few people who can claim that they never did or said anything stupid when they were a teenager, and then later cringe about those things as they got older. There are players in the game right now who have strikes on their accounts over stupid stuff they did years ago but would never even dream of doing now.

    I really really really hate the idea that something dumb you did years ago when you were a different person can still negatively affect you today even after you learned and matured from it.

    Strikes should be removed after a period of good behaviour. The more severe the offense, the longer it takes to be removed. Although some stuff should stay on your account such as cheating or severely inappropriate behavior such as stalking because these are particularly strong offenses. Can't be compared with someone dropping a F bomb.
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  5. #85
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    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    I think it's crazy that a game rated for teens doesn't have a strike removal policy. There are very few people who can claim that they never did or said anything stupid when they were a teenager, and then later cringe about those things as they got older. There are players in the game right now who have strikes on their accounts over stupid stuff they did years ago but would never even dream of doing now.

    I really really really hate the idea that something dumb you did years ago when you were a different person can still negatively affect you today even after you learned and matured from it.

    Strikes should be removed after a period of good behaviour. The more severe the offense, the longer it takes to be removed. Although some stuff should stay on your account such as cheating or severely inappropriate behavior such as stalking because these are particularly strong offenses. Can't be compared with someone dropping a F bomb.
    welcome to real life these days, thats how cancel culture has been working as of late, digging back years into ppls posts hoping to find something that will "prove" they deserve to be canceled just because they dislike them personally, its sad really
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  6. #86
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuya420 View Post
    welcome to real life these days, thats how cancel culture has been working as of late, digging back years into ppls posts hoping to find something that will "prove" they deserve to be canceled just because they dislike them personally, its sad really
    Cancel culture is why I had to unsubscribe from many youtubers and unfollow a lot of twitter accounts. I got tired of the whole "you said this awful thing once and even though for the past ten years you have been nothing but a good influence it means nothing because of that one bad thing". These people aren't trying to make the world a better place, they're trying to make themselves feel good by destroying someone else. It's revolting behaviour.
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  7. #87
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    Thing is no matter how much they scream well tos says it.. Then you go read it and NO IT DOESNT say what was done is against it..

    And if you deny this your naive they throw in this bs lines that then can used to honestly ban/warn for no reason..
    Lines that are really open ended and have no real way to follow then groups of ppl who are uptight use that bs for no reason on a person who isnt doing a,damn thing wrong.
    So for one this loop hole bs needs to be removed from tos
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  8. #88
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuya420 View Post
    why do anything for swearing tho? isnt there a profanity filter? there is literally swearing in the games dialogue, suggestive themes at times, so its not 100% child friendly so why with those things in mind would they ban or do any sort of punishment for swearing?
    The argument is the use of it.

    I swore at somebody, not swore in general, which I assume was the argument for me (Still strange you can be very direct with a certain R word but here we are I guess.)
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  9. #89
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    Thea Sitori
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    Here we go again with someone saying "use the profanity filter" to justify their wrongdoing. Well that was designed so you didn't accidentally comes across it in some passing conversation like a linkshell or shout.

    But cursing to someone is prohibited in this game, second most fail to realize the profanity filter is just a client setting, what you wrote is logged on the servers for a GM to see unfiltered. You can have a strike if you'd like, keep it up.
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  10. #90
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    I think that it's a matter of nuance, really.

    There's a huge difference between targeted profanity and profanity that isn't aimed at anybody in particular.

    There's also cultural elements at play, different backgrounds and language barriers. Misunderstandings happen.

    I've said this before but some of the kindest people I've ever met swore like sailors. In some cases, they pretty much were sailors due to living next to the sea.

    Interestingly enough, some of the worst people I've ever met were always very keen to show off how 'virtuous' and 'tolerant' they supposedly were. Yet the things they said in private, when the 'cameras' weren't running and zero accountability existed? Oh, boy...
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