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  1. #501
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    Voidle Vovo
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    I really hate how this is the top thread in Market and Retainers but SE refuses to take any actions for months. We've pointed out the offenders for them, there's obviously something fishy going on their end, no way a player can sit in their apartment for 24 hours a day 7 days a week, never log off and still be considered a fair player. Are you telling me that all the gil those accounts make remain in their account? No way!
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    Last edited by Voidle; 02-22-2021 at 09:56 PM.
    lala go bRR

  2. #502
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    Etherea Stormaire
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    Zalera
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    Quote Originally Posted by Voidle View Post
    I really hate how this is the top thread in Market and Retainers but SE refuses to take any actions for months. We've pointed out the offenders for them, there's obviously something fishy going on their end, no way a player can sit in their apartment for 24 hours a day 7 days a week, never log off and still be considered a fair player. Are you telling me that all the gil those accounts make remain in their account? No way!
    or how a single crafter on one world sells across the entire data center in volume isnt connected at all to RMT. they must just be a 'dedicated crafter' that wants to max gil on every world... or something..
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  3. #503
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    Xoto Ioto
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    Y'all down to obnoxiously flood every forum with messages about how bots are out of control? Cuz idk... it's kind of fun
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  4. #504
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    Alijana Tumet
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    Sometimes you need to be "obnoxious" to get a point across to the higher-ups, but in this case I'm doubting it'll do anything considering the sheer level of disconnect the community managers seem to have with the developers.

    I'm not sure how this is worse then any of the other issues that get brought up on a regular basis, though.
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  5. #505
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    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    I'm not sure how this is worse then any of the other issues that get brought up on a regular basis, though.
    No. No. No. I dont wanna take away from the gripes of others. I meant more like... writing in the very clearly Japanese only Dev Tracker forums with obnoxious English.
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  6. #506
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    given how their "research" indicated that cross world didnt affect trade and markets and they are planning on implementing cross data centers, I doubt even that will sink in to them

    the only evidence seems to be they condone botting or at the very least... have completely given up on RMT and bot issues
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  7. #507
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    Does anyone have an opinion on if punishing botting will be taken more seriously when players can travel between data centers?
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  8. #508
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xoto View Post
    Does anyone have an opinion on if punishing botting will be taken more seriously when players can travel between data centers?
    I was going to fill a page with "HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA" but figured it would be too much effort.

    it will make RMT even easier... so no, I dont expect their enforcement to change in all honesty. punishment, according to recent forum posts, is reserved for RP'ers. bots can break the TOS with impunity.
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  9. #509
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    Thy'mara Thurston
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    Trial restrictions might be how SE is trying to address this

    Considering how very restricted the things a free trial player can do are [i.e. they can't use retainers, they can't trade, they can't friend people or join free companies], I'm guessing this is the primary way SE is trying to address market botting.
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  10. #510
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    Jojoya Joya
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    Quote Originally Posted by KatCnaa View Post
    Considering how very restricted the things a free trial player can do are [i.e. they can't use retainers, they can't trade, they can't friend people or join free companies], I'm guessing this is the primary way SE is trying to address market botting.
    There's nothing new about those trial restrictions. They've been in place for years. They take QoL away from the trial player as a way to encourage purchase of the game if the players is enjoying the content they can access.

    It's not a way of addressing the current market botting problem, though certainly the problem would be worse if those restrictions weren't in place.
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