Can we get more rules on party finder

[Laphicet]

The funny thing is people assume banning the advertisements in PF will even do a damn thing to protect their precious titles and what not, when people will still just use discord or what have you and it will still happen, its the modern era, ain't nothing no one can do to stop the selling of content.

It's not about making the titles/mounts/weapons/etc more meaningful or sacred, it's about removing the 5 to 10 spam entries that always sit at the top of DF whenever you open it. Or at least forcing them to stop hijacking the duty roulette section of the PF and put it in the other section so it's out of the way.

[Bsrking5]

It's not about making the titles/mounts/weapons/etc more meaningful or sacred, it's about removing the 5 to 10 spam entries that always sit at the top of DF whenever you open it. Or at least forcing them to stop hijacking the duty roulette section of the PF and put it in the other section so it's out of the way.

This but I wouldn't have a single tear if they perma ban these players. Selling content in any form or shape shouldn't be allowed on the official side of SE.

[MicahZerrshia]

If you're not paying for runs, and you're not selling runs. Then how does gear, or a mount, or an achievement / title have any bearing or degradation on your personal quality of gameplay?

This is a real simplification of the argument.

Let's take a look at FFXI as being a prime example of what can happen when this is the typical view of merc culture in an mmo. SE let the merc culture do their thing in ffxi and in the past 10 years the game has become so overrun with mercs that getting anything done on your own is nearly impossible. It also created a still thriving and out of control RMT situation due to the fact the people have to pay hundreds of thousands up to millions of gil to get wins or get most forms of content complete. The mercs have a hold over all the high level content and the rmt have overrun the leveling zones and the lower level content that is still needed for relics, mythics and empyrean gear because it is so easy for them to automate it and advertise freely with no consequence. They both also hold hostage any sellable drops since they have such a tight hold on the content.

The game still has an ok sized population but every other day you hear of ppl leaving the game or new ppl starting and then just giving up once they hit the level cap because the only way to do anything is to buy the content wins. FFXI is an amazing game, even still, but SE has just let things get so out of control that it's not even worth the time for a lot of people.

So over a period of time this can have long standing and devastating effects on a game. So how can it impact the average player? Well it can have an immense impact on both a game and its player base if left unchecked. Simply shrugging it off as having no consequence is terribly naïve at best and downright dangerous for a game at the worst.

[VictorTheed]

You know u can always just scroll past it instead of thinking a GM should solve your problems for you.

I don't raid or participate in many RP events, so when I see em in pf I view em as a waste of my time, but I don't think they should be taken down cause I know others enjoy them, so I just scroll down to the stuff that interests me or close pf, instead of asking for them to be cancelled.

[SnowVix]

Yes! Please ban run sellers!

what's funny about this is that Asmongold was a run seller in WoW (an aboveboard, gold-only run seller, note) and has said as much in his videos

[ItMe]

what's funny about this is that Asmongold was a run seller in WoW (an aboveboard, gold-only run seller, note) and has said as much in his videos

Wait, what?
I only loosely follow what happens with WoW news, so forgive me if I'm late to the party but... is this real?
I thought Asmongold was supposed to be a pretty respectable player.

Also, you say they were an "aboveboard" run seller.
Can you unpack that for me? Like, did ActiBlizz know about them? Or was it just an open secret in the community?

[spf1200]

Why? They aren't hurting anything. Just scroll past them. If people want to pay (gil) to get carried through things why should SE try to stop them?

[SnowVix]

Wait, what?
I only loosely follow what happens with WoW news, so forgive me if I'm late to the party but... is this real?
I thought Asmongold was supposed to be a pretty respectable player.

Also, you say they were an "aboveboard" run seller.
Can you unpack that for me? Like, did ActiBlizz know about them? Or was it just an open secret in the community?

different games, different rules, different communities. in WoW run selling for in-game items is pretty much accepted by both players and devs. Asmongold's guild, like 95% of raiding guilds, sold runs for gold (in-game currency) because of how the gearing works in that game. he mentioned it in his video talking about the guy who accidentally streamed himself trying to pull one over on a run buyer.

the reason for my comment is that MPK repeatedly talks about wanting to have Asmongold join XIV, so the irony was palpable

[gilmorej]

Why? They aren't hurting anything. Just scroll past them. If people want to pay (gil) to get carried through things why should SE try to stop them?

Almost all run selling ads on PF end with a Discord handle for communication. They don't want to talk in tells, they want to talk on a 3rd party app outside of the game, where SE can't log their chat. Why could that be? It's because they want real money.

The ads that respond to tells and don't demand to chat about it in Discord are probably legit -- and while I don't have any issues with basic run selling for gil, I am suspicious of where large amounts of gil to buy runs may be coming from (is the gil to pay for runs bought with real money -- thus funding all those flying and tunneling bots that plague the place?)

[ItMe]

different games, different rules, different communities. in WoW run selling for in-game items is pretty much accepted by both players and devs. Asmongold's guild, like 95% of raiding guilds, sold runs for gold (in-game currency) because of how the gearing works in that game. he mentioned it in his video talking about the guy who accidentally streamed himself trying to pull one over on a run buyer.

the reason for my comment is that MPK repeatedly talks about wanting to have Asmongold join XIV, so the irony was palpable

I understand.
Thank you for the answer : )