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    Maltothoris's Avatar
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    Malto Thoris
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    White Mage Lv 100

    Dengeki Interview

    This happened a few weeks ago and not sure if anyone else found it but here is some more info regarding some of the healers.

    https://kamedani.tumblr.com/post/642...geki-interview

    There's more on the before this section but this was the one I want post ahead.

    Dengeki: On the same topic, will there be any kind of change to fight balance by making pure healers and shield healers?

    Yoshi P: Up until Patch 5.3 we heard from a lot of players that healers had a fair amount of downtime on their hands. So, from Patch 5.4, we’ve planned for the more difficult content to put out a lot more damage more often. For speed clears we are planning for it to be harder to do with just pure healers or just shield healers.

    We plan on continuing to make content with this idea in mind so content will be easier to clear if you bring one pure healer and one shield healer. Also, as I said at the Announcement Showcase, we are going to be changing the algorithm behind the matching systems like Raid Finder as best we can so it will put both healer types in a group.


    Edit: There are other important sections like what they're going to try with high end with making sure you have a "pure" and a "shield" healer together in raid finder and stuff.
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    Tiana Vestoria
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    It atleast sounds like they're trying to make regen and barrier healing more distinct, which is good. The issue still stands that it's supposedly only for "difficult content" so there will probably not be any changes to healer downtime in 90+% of the content.
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    Avarnia Corthal
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    I'm dissappointed yoshida didnt get or acknowledge that feedback sooner, we've been saying it for months. Just the top end of content isn't enough, it needs to be all content

    its a 3 step plan to address healer downtime. So far 0.5/3 is done.

    1. give something more than pressing 2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1 during downtime
    2. Overall increase to incoming damage in all content
    3. Increase frequency of required healing (none of this 2 minutes before a heal rubbish)

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    from the same interview, the tanks being distinct i fundamentally disagree with. WAR and Drk play pretty much identically and pld isn'tfaar behind either
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    Iiiiiiiiiiit's Meeeee
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    Quote Originally Posted by Recon1o6 View Post
    I'm dissappointed yoshida didnt get or acknowledge that feedback sooner, we've been saying it for months.
    Considering how long it takes for something to get to them, for them to find time to consider it, draft ideas, playtest things, do this enough to come to an informed conclusion, and do all of this without interrupting the work they were in the middle of... I'm not surprised it took months.
    Yoshi P isn't the kind of person who would just acknowledge feedback without looking into it, so a lot must have gone on for him to even be able to comment on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ItMe View Post
    Considering how long it takes for something to get to them, for them to find time to consider it, draft ideas, playtest things, do this enough to come to an informed conclusion, and do all of this without interrupting the work they were in the middle of... I'm not surprised it took months.
    A few months maybe, but let's not pretend that healer complaints haven't been a thing for about a year now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Absurdity View Post
    A few months maybe, but let's not pretend that healer complaints haven't been a thing for about a year now.
    Absolutely.
    We've heard similar complaints from Healer since Stormblood.
    And it seems like SQEX has been playing an awkward and misguided version of whack-a-mole with them.
    Heck, the complaints about ShB downtime started before ShB released.
    But the notion "this has taken months" is not something to be surprised or upset by. This has taken too many months is, but that's a different conversation.
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    Positive: YoshiP acknowledges the issue. We are at least out of the Limbo where we don't know if they recognise it as a problem. Great place to start.
    Positive: It sounds like the devs, moving forward are going to address it in content balance
    Negative: He says for harder content.
    Negative: There's no reference to how they are going to address the problem for lower level
    My Hope: They throw in more stuff to break the monotony in other content instead of upping the healer requirement to keep it approachable, of course, in addition to the above.
    My expectation: They only adjust it for higher content and not only does it mean we don't get anything to break up the monotony but the distinction between "shield" and "pure" healer is moot and only applies to higher difficult content. Meaning 95% of content remains dull for experienced healers.
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    Aylin Bielawska
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    So... No real changes, just stay the course.

    I'm so glad they used an entire expansion of silence and contemplation to come to this revolutionary decision.
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    Ea Sin
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    Quote Originally Posted by MintnHoney View Post
    So... No real changes, just stay the course.

    I'm so glad they used an entire expansion of silence and contemplation to come to this revolutionary decision.
    This.
    5.4 was definitely not noteworthy. And we all know there's a limit to how much more healing they'll ask of us in savage content. So all in all we haven't moved much other than them finally communicating on healers.

    I just hope they don't use this "extra healing" as an excuse to keep the dps rotation / downtime gameplay non-existent.
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    Rin Shima
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    I really doubt that, this is what players ask

    Actually healers wants rotation for damage, to be good at topping whole party with hp and output nice numbers for logs/damage

    I see big disconnection between players and devs

    from HW to SB to SHB is more and more dumbing down jobs
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