Roleplay/Partyfinder Discrepancies & Policy Enforcement by GM's

[kellanna]

And so folks under 18 shouldnt be going to said locations. Those advertising arent at fault if someone underaged goes to one as they are always listed as 18+. That's called bad parenting if someone underage ends up there. If seeing someone post on pf about their venue upsets you so much to where you have to blist them that tell me your foundation is a bit to shaky imo

This is pretty much where my mind is at on all this. I see so much performative puritanism and virtue signaling with "think of the children!". If y'all really cared about children, you'd be advocating for education teaching responsible internet usage and tools for parents to help properly moderate their children's internet usage and keep them safe from bad actors that would exploit them in addition to proper sex education so that teens can have a healthy relationship with the act in their formative years. Newsflash, the internet is full of sexual things, and most of it just requires clicking on a button that says "Yeah, I'm definitely 18" to view it. I don't really see a crusade against that. Hell, even with Steam I can create an account that says I'm 18 with little to no verification, go to Walmart for a Steam gift card and buy any adult games I like. Where's the crusade against that?

All of this reeks of demonizing sex. The advertisements for ERP are not sexually assaulting your eyes. If you're disgusted by even the implication of natural and healthy bodily functions when it's not even directed specifically at you, that's your problem. The rest of us that have a healthy relationship with it should really not be punished for that.

[Doozer]

This is pretty much where my mind is at on all this. I see so much performative puritanism and virtue signaling with "think of the children!". If y'all really cared about children, you'd be advocating for education teaching responsible internet usage and tools for parents to help properly moderate their children's internet usage and keep them safe from bad actors that would exploit them in addition to proper sex education so that teens can have a healthy relationship with the act in their formative years. Newsflash, the internet is full of sexual things, and most of it just requires clicking on a button that says "Yeah, I'm definitely 18" to view it. I don't really see a crusade against that. Hell, even with Steam I can create an account that says I'm 18 with little to no verification, go to Walmart for a Steam gift card and buy any adult games I like. Where's the crusade against that?

All of this reeks of demonizing sex. The advertisements for ERP are not sexually assaulting your eyes. If you're disgusted by even the implication of natural and healthy bodily functions when it's not even directed specifically at you, that's your problem. The rest of us that have a healthy relationship with it should really not be punished for that.

Those "yes I'm 18" buttons are for liability. So if anything bad happens or you learn something bad you can't sue them.

But you really can't put all the responsibility on parents and others around the minors and say, "well it's your parents' fault that you don't know not to ERP with strangers like me!". It's the responsibility of everyone (yes, everyone, even ERPers) to make sure environments that may contain minors (like, say, an online game rated T) are safe for them. That means keeping ERP to yourself or within closed groups and not doing it with people you don't know. That's not "demonizing" sex, that's exercising caution. You do know that you don't have to have a black or white perspective on this, right? In this case both sides are right to a degree, but going to the full extreme that acting like people are being prudes for telling you to stop advertising ERP in public is absurd.

[ZackZero]

Those "yes I'm 18" buttons are for liability. So if anything bad happens or you learn something bad you can't sue them.

But you really can't put all the responsibility on parents and others around the minors and say, "well it's your parents' fault that you don't know not to ERP with strangers like me!". It's the responsibility of everyone (yes, everyone, even ERPers) to make sure environments that may contain minors (like, say, an online game rated T) are safe for them. That means keeping ERP to yourself or within closed groups and not doing it with people you don't know. That's not "demonizing" sex, that's exercising caution. You do know that you don't have to have a black or white perspective on this, right? In this case both sides are right to a degree, but going to the full extreme that acting like people are being prudes for telling you to stop advertising ERP in public is absurd.

Fair points, and agreed that advertising that sort of thing in public is certainly asking for GM attention or worse. However, by the same point, there's been a good few references in this thread that just attack it as degeneracy, a famously vague term that has been used to address anything that isn't the societal norm, or even suggesting (and trying to walk back as unmarked sarcasm) that LGBT+ groups should be kicked off next. The people doing that here are just as bad.

[Hexie]

Fair points, and agreed that advertising that sort of thing in public is certainly asking for GM attention or worse. However, by the same point, there's been a good few references in this thread that just attack it as degeneracy, a famously vague term that has been used to address anything that isn't the societal norm, or even suggesting (and trying to walk back as unmarked sarcasm) that LGBT+ groups should be kicked off next. The people doing that here are just as bad.

Glad I'm not the only one who was thinking about this stuff. There's a lot of really nasty language and rhetoric in this thread that is concerning to me as a queer person who knows anything about LGBT+ history and how we've been treated in the past.