Why is the next new job a melee DPS?

[SavishSalacious]

I haven't seen 40 minute dps queues since 2.0....


You are doing something very wrong.

No Im running on an alt and trying to do old raid content for the story

[Bright-Flower]

So why the f are all the queue times for us DPS 40+ minutes?

The queue times for DPS are generally high, because there are more people playing dps than the other roles even accounting for the 1-1-2 ratio in most content save alliance raids.

In a dungeon dps are 2/4 of the slots but more than half of the people are generally queueing as dps, hence a longer wait.

In terms of older raids for story, that's largely because of people being able to duck out of doing raids they don't want to by reducing their ilvl by removing gear. So if you want to do orbonne monestary for example, a lot of people queueing for alliance raid roulette are avoiding it by cheesing with gear.

[SavishSalacious]

In terms of older raids for story, that's largely because of people being able to duck out of doing raids they don't want to by reducing their ilvl by removing gear. So if you want to do orbonne monestary for example, a lot of people queueing for alliance raid roulette are avoiding it by cheesing with gear.

While I am not overly complaining about queue times, I just go do something else till the controller buzzes. I think, more like wish, something could be done about that. For example theres lots of people running crystal tower, but its 20-30 minutes for my summoner to get in. Sky pirates is 40+ for example.

[Bright-Flower]

For alliance raids what I think they ought to do is tiered ivl requirements.

You're level 50 to 59? You need to queue with an ilvl high enough to do any crystal tower raid.

60 to 69? Better have ilvl high enough for dun scaithe.

70 to 79? Orbonne.

Level capped? Whatever the ilvl of the newest raid in roulette is.

The tradeoff then though is that it's potentially annoying for people who just reached those milestones but don't have the gear for them yet, who honestly can't make those threshholds and aren't just cheesing the system.

Another solution could just be to remove the ilvl requirements and only base it on level but then you could end up with several undergeared people.

The part of the queue time that's based on roll distribution though there isn't much they can do about it, as redesigning content with a different breakout of roles would be a huge shift from where things are currently balanced.

[Mavrias]

So why the f are all the queue times for us DPS 40+ minutes?

because its the most popular role, hello? more people playing dps means fewer people playing tanks and healers.

[Seraphor]

They have multiple systems of DPS classification.

A: Melee and Ranged (4/6 currently)
B: Melee, Physical Ranged and Magical Ranged (4/3/3 currently)
C. Maiming, Striking, Scouting, Aiming, Casting (1/2/1/3/3)
Either can be valid.

They change their minds which system they strive to keep 'even' at any given time, and this actually works out quite well because if they stuck to one system, it would mean they would eventually hit a stage where that balance was achieved and they would have to break it by adding new jobs, the next DPS job in a given expansion would be predictable because we could easily see where the gaps were, and it would enforce a stricter party make up.
So you have to realise, while Yoshi P might say they're looking to even out the roles, they never want to actually achieve a balance between them.
Think of it like playing RDM.

Their explanation for choosing a maiming gear melee job specifically is flimsy because Ninja is in exactly the same boat. Unless they're going to shift Ninja over to aiming gear, then this sets the precedent for 7.0 to add another melee using scouting gear, but I'm sure they'll change up their philosophy before then and give us a Magical Ranged instead.

[grinkdaboy]

because melee chads run this game

[Rymi64]

Their explanation for choosing a maiming gear melee job specifically is flimsy because Ninja is in exactly the same boat. Unless they're going to shift Ninja over to aiming gear, then this sets the precedent for 7.0 to add another melee using scouting gear, but I'm sure they'll change up their philosophy before then and give us a Magical Ranged instead.

Dragoon has had its own armor type since the beginning of ARR compared to ninja who was added after arrs release and even shared striking gear at a point which is why they said what they did with dragoon and maiming.

[Seraphor]

Dragoon has had its own armor type since the beginning of ARR compared to ninja who was added after arrs release and even shared striking gear at a point which is why they said what they did with dragoon and maiming.

Ninja doesn't share striking gear.
It uses Dexterity, not Strength.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Ninja doesn't share striking gear.
It uses Dexterity, not Strength.

That's not what they said. They said it did... at a point. Which is true. Nin didn't get its own gear until 2.4. Until then, it used striking gear.

That's why 110 striking gear had both STR and DEX.

See: https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...m/32d5357cdc9/