Roleplay/Partyfinder Discrepancies & Policy Enforcement by GM's

[Jijifli]

Why is it that there's only this one "GM Wyndallus" in all of these screenshots? I'm seeing screenshots from a Gm Dorxenore that says it's fine.

Sadly that screenshot is from 2016 (I've had connections with the FC before that got that, as it turns out, though not for a couple years), which means old ToS, which means New vague ToS nulled it.

[kinglyonheart]

I feel like now is the time to set up a Discord server similar to Centurio Hunts or other servers. This would allow multiple venues to advertise outside of FF14 in one localized place. The more venues that join in on that server, the more visibility everyone would get.

It doesn't solve most of the issues presented where it feels like RP venues are being randomly and potentially unfairly targeted, but it would help create a place where the RP community could thrive and remain inside the boundaries of the TOS.

some of us also don't want to join big ol' group discord servers like that because that's just not our style. also idk if you know roleplayers but man it would get to petty squabbles and beef and drama real fast which is another reason a lot of people avoid those types of servers

[Nora_Silverborn]

Honestly, while I'm not an RP'er, I support their right to play the game as they want, and I feel like the easiest solution would be what some people have stated in this thread and just ADD a RP tab in the PF. The devs could even have a banner at the top linking to a ToS/guideline pop-up for posting an ad there. So things like brothels and other dark mature themes are not overrunning the space where minors are expected to see them. (or you can filter them out by adding a mature tag, if that's feasible"

I honestly don't mind such things existing, as long as everyone's consensual and of age (no RMT of course), but I've noticed a decided uptick in /shout adds the last couple years to the point of it becoming spam in regards to SPECIFICALLY 18+ brothel style ERP. At least on Aether. /Shouting is way more annoying in my opinion than if you could just select an RP tab in the PF and see what's on there.

Like others here, I get that fellowship finder is supposed to be something for socializing and such, but I agree with the logic that if you want to grow your community/rp circle, the PF would be better on the account of just getting wayyy more traffic as a feature. It's the difference between being on a main street or a side street in a city and they deserve a spot on main just as much as any other community in the game. I still think 18+ is side street content though, given that this isn't an M rated game and there are under-aged players on main. (Just to continue the analogy, haha)

But yeah, give them a tab and make it clear what won't be tolerated on there for ToS purposes. People have enough agency to either click or avoid the tab if it's not relevant to them. If the devs are able to take it a step further, give an option to "mute" a tab on PF if a player absolutely doesn't want to see.

Content seller PFs advertising prestige content carries for gil/RMT/what-have-you are way worse imo and should be cracked down on much heavier than they currently are, period.

[DJAzure]

Sadly that screenshot is from 2016 (I've had connections with the FC before that got that, as it turns out, though not for a couple years), which means old ToS, which means New vague ToS nulled it.

Oh? I mean are all of those screenshots from 2016?

[WkdPaul]

hopefully yoshi p addresses this and is ruthless against erp/rp in the game and kills it for good, fingers crossed for the next live letter

He has no problem with RP, see the last question in this interview ;
https://kotaku.com/final-fantasy-xiv...sic-1838148771

Alexandra: This is a question on behalf of the game’s roleplaying community. Many players, who do not act as if they are the Warrior of Light, but rather pretend to be everyday adventurers, were excited to create stories that take place on the First but saw that the game’s narrative didn’t really allow travel for “normal” individuals to end up there. If players want to pretend their “normal” characters can travel to and play on the First, is that okay? (I promise this is a question that many of them eagerly await an answer to.)

Yoshida: Hrm… Personally, I see video games as something that gives you the freedom to play however you like. So, if you, the player, believe that you can travel to the First, then so be it, right?

We have yet to reveal everything about who the Warrior of Light is, and whether they are the only ones who are special. Furthermore, the definition of a “normal individual” seems a bit vague here, as well. I think the power to believe and the desire to persevere are the biggest elements that drive progress in an individual, and so if you believe that you as a character can go to the First, then wouldn’t that be enough? A life dictated by someone else is no fun anyhow, is it?

Nobody is forcing you to RP, there's nothing wrong with it, and if you have an issue with RP, maybe playing an MMORPG might not be the right choice ?

[Jijifli]

Oh? I mean are all of those screenshots from 2016?

Nonononono. The new about it being OKAY ( Dorx ) is from 2016. Those OP's are, I assume, very very recent.

[PeanutCheese]

This may be true but then advertising you are running the newest extreme and need members is exactly the same thing. Where do you draw the line?

Hardly.

A courtesan is, by definition, a prostitute it just sounds nicer. Advertising prostitution, regardless of format, is not something your average company wants to support.

Advertising for the latest Ex and looking for members isn't suggesting that for a sum of ingame money you will perform sexually gratuitous acts in exchange, even if your kink is beating up monsters. They're not the same at all.

Other than that, we're on the same side. Venues should be allowed to advertise in PF, regardless if they're tagging as SFW/NSFW/18+; if someone wants to crusade under a morality banner than they should call out the specific things that aren't acceptable as they might be pushing the limits, such as openly advertising court services.

Personally, I'd rather see the RMT'rs go and the various bots I enjoy at timed nodes all day long, some of which I reported two months ago before I realized no one cared.

[Bright-Flower]

I can get them wanting to separate out RP stuff from regular content, but in that case they ought to just add a new tab for RP and then leave Other for whatever else.

[AlterlaLeichteschild]

Also noting: 18+ may not always be sex and brothels. I know a few murder mysteries I'd run that I'd keep 18+ just because they'll deal with heavy topics.

Right or there are Casino venues that due to the themes of gambling would want to be kept 18+ due to gambling themes. Heck even RP FC's might want to be 18+ because of the personal stories of that FC so will recruiting for your FC not be allowed on the PF

[Infindox]

I feel like now is the time to set up a Discord server similar to Centurio Hunts or other servers. This would allow multiple venues to advertise outside of FF14 in one localized place. The more venues that join in on that server, the more visibility everyone would get.

It doesn't solve most of the issues presented where it feels like RP venues are being randomly and potentially unfairly targeted, but it would help create a place where the RP community could thrive and remain inside the boundaries of the TOS.

This is a decent idea, but it's also not an entirely fool-proof one, as some people just don't like using Discord past using vc for content. There are, at least on my DC, RP serverss up, but they sometimes cause drama because of what they allow and disallow. I know of a player who RPs who wasn't welcome at the main one because they wanted more adult themes (not all erp). This also makes it harder for people who only dabble in social activities like glamour contests and holiday parties to find them.