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    Quote Originally Posted by Nothv13 View Post
    Cool to know that people are still letting words some puritans back in the day said were bad, influence them so much as to be offended.
    It's not a matter of being offended. Stop letting edgy internet culture cloud your judgement just because someone led you to believe that anyone that points out bad behaviour is just being "offended" or a "snowflake".

    The rules were made by SE. They can't catch everyone. So players are allowed to report when they see a rule being broken. Then a GM is sent to assess it and possibly dole out punishment. SE says profanity and offensive language is against the rules. You do it, and someone spots it, you might get punished. Not sure why you struggle with that concept.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fourbestintoner View Post
    Read it again.
    dunno man. "you may not use profanity" is pretty clear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mavrias View Post
    dunno man. "you may not use profanity" is pretty clear.
    I think they mean "read it again until you agree with me".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doozer View Post
    It's not a matter of being offended. Stop letting edgy internet culture cloud your judgement just because someone led you to believe that anyone that points out bad behaviour is just being "offended" or a "snowflake".

    The rules were made by SE. They can't catch everyone. So players are allowed to report when they see a rule being broken. Then a GM is sent to assess it and possibly dole out punishment. SE says profanity and offensive language is against the rules. You do it, and someone spots it, you might get punished. Not sure why you struggle with that concept.
    Sorry if words are bad behavior, then there is a massive issue as words only have the power you grant them. They can make the rules all they want, but with as vague as they are, they yhave pretty much carte blanch on enforcing them, which is not good when it comes to rule enforcement
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForteNightshade View Post
    Which is hypercritical and inconsistent. Hence my point. Your entire argument in this thread hinges on everyone following the rules... except, apparently, the very people who are supposed to enforce them. They can absolutely break their own ToS, but it makes the look foolish doing so.

    I like how you immediately jump to WoW, assuming I even play it. Which I don't. Perhaps I just don't see certain words as offensive. Frankly, I don't. That doesn't mean I'll "curse like a sailor" but I've always found the notion of taking offense because someone dropped the s or b words silly.

    But yes, swear words are always indicative of anger management issues. You really do fancy giant leaps in logic and baseless assumptions, don't you?
    No swear words aren’t always indicative of anger management. They’re also often indicative of immaturity. There aren’t too many reasons why an intellectual well tempered adult would choose these words to get any point across.

    But regardless I just can’t understand why you need the right to potentially offend others in a family oriented video game. This isn’t a free speech issue, it’s more akin to why puppets on kids tv shows don’t drop swear words.

    Let people have nice things without bringing them down to your level.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nothv13 View Post
    Sorry if words are bad behavior, then there is a massive issue as words only have the power you grant them. They can make the rules all they want, but with as vague as they are, they yhave pretty much carte blanch on enforcing them, which is not good when it comes to rule enforcement
    So who's the one running amok here? People getting offended? GMs on a power trip? Get your story straight, I'm trying to figure out who you're a victim of here and you're constantly changing it.
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    These forums offend me.
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    *grabs weapon: keyboard,switches imbued by the tears of yoshiP's disappointment in me and my static when i ask to play my ilvl 495 drg*
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doozer View Post
    So who's the one running amok here? People getting offended? GMs on a power trip? Get your story straight, I'm trying to figure out who you're a victim of here and you're constantly changing it.
    I'd say the people getting offended by profanity, which funnily enough the use of has a positive correlation with being honest according to some studies and others show a increased pain tolerance from swearing. There is also no actual evidence of harm from profanity. In the end though, they are just words deemed by puritans of the past as bad or offensive
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nothv13 View Post
    I'd say the people getting offended by profanity, which funnily enough the use of has a positive correlation with being honest according to some studies and others show a increased pain tolerance from swearing. There is also no actual evidence of harm from profanity. In the end though, they are just words deemed by puritans of the past as bad or offensive
    That's all well and good, but I think the use of profanity on pain tolerance has to do with saying it out loud, not typing it on a keyboard. Sorry to burst your bubble. If that upsets you (or even, dare I say, offends you), you have my permission to yell bad words to yourself.

    Also, you seem to be fixated on the "offended" and "puritan" aspect, which leads me to believe you've got nothing more to say and don't actually want to understand what I'm saying. It doesn't matter if people are offended or who decided when what was bad. The rules you agree to in order to play the game state that if you break them you can be suspended or banned. Just because someone caught you breaking a rule doesn't mean they're "offended". It means you're an arrogant fool who thinks they're above rules set by other people, and you still lost.

    Get over it. If you're just going to keep repeating the same stuff about how profanity is fake or whatever, I'm done talking to you. It's a waste of time trying to talk to someone who just parrots someone else's rhetoric because they have nothing of their own.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauront View Post
    Some people just speak that way.

    All the more reason to be careful about who you let in a FC. Particularly regarding killjoys who are easily offended by a bit of swearing...
    It's no different than talking DPS numbers in a non-premade party, or linkshell. This is a grey area, but if you knew everyone was okay with the content, then it would be no problem. Happens all the time in savage, these players or raid groups are more adapt to talking about DPS numbers versus in a dungeon where the audience is likely completely different. If your FC likes to use certain words, or talk damage numbers like in this example, it's better to screen people who would be okay with the content.
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