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  1. #61
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    I'm personally expecting a 'journey to the center of Hydaelyn via silvertear lake' final act.
    Silvertear Lake is likely going to be the entrance to Pandemonium and be the equivalent of a post-final boss bonus dungeon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultimatecalibur View Post
    Silvertear Lake is likely going to be the entrance to Pandemonium and be the equivalent of a post-final boss bonus dungeon.
    I'm actually behind the theory that the alliance raid will revolve around Silvertear as they implied it'll be something that's been a part of the games lore for a long time and it fits the bill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultimatecalibur View Post
    Silvertear Lake is likely going to be the entrance to Pandemonium and be the equivalent of a post-final boss bonus dungeon.
    You say 'likely' but there's literally nothing to connect those things at all. Nothing more than a link to Hydaelyn or the planets core at any rate.
    It's all baseless speculation.

    We were however told that Pandaemonium takes place in an entire new location. While gaining access to this new location via Silvertear is obviously still an option, this 'new location' was made to sound important or unusual.
    Given that Pandemonium is from hell, I'd wager it's location is in Tartarus.
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    There's still the long-ignored plot thread of whatever Midgardsormr was guarding under Silvertear. Whatever it was originally supposed to be in 1.0, it's still unresolved now. It could be retconned into the gate to Pandemonium, or the new alliance raid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unholychinchilla View Post
    I'm actually behind the theory that the alliance raid will revolve around Silvertear as they implied it'll be something that's been a part of the games lore for a long time and it fits the bill.
    They could just as easily use the heart of sabik, considering breadboy is the posterboy and we know he knows more about its use than we do.

    Considering the trials series in 5.0, especially the lyrics, were intended to not forget about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SoleilAlphi View Post
    my wish is for Lunar Subterrain from ff4
    I'd like this as well, but they need to stack it with dangerous powerful monsters instead of the usual small fry pushover ones in overworld zones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by van_arn View Post
    They could just as easily use the heart of sabik, considering breadboy is the posterboy and we know he knows more about its use than we do.

    Considering the trials series in 5.0, especially the lyrics, were intended to not forget about it.
    You're thinking of Pandaemonium, the 8-man which has Lahabrea as the teaser. I was presenting the alliance raid, which we currently have no name or teaser image for, as an alternative to the quote I posted.

    But yeah I'm hoping Pandaemonium involves the heart of sabik, if 6.0 MSQ doesn't. Somebody asked about it in a pre-ShB Q&A and Yoshi said he can't say what it was because it might be a spoiler, so yeah we're definitely not done with that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultimatecalibur View Post
    Silvertear Lake is likely going to be the entrance to Pandemonium and be the equivalent of a post-final boss bonus dungeon.
    Yoshi P. said the 24 man raid series for Endwalker would address a long running Eorzean mystery, So my money is on Silver tear lake being the 24 man raid series, with the possibility of going to the real Eureka for one of the 3 raids in it and the final one finally answering the question on why Midgardsormir was tasked by Hydalyn to guard that specific spot on the planet.

    As for the final zone I honestly feel it will be the moon, it has been set up really throughout the game, in various cutscenes and cinematic trailers and boss fights that I feel it is a safe bet for the final zone. it may be a 2 part zone with the second half of it being the part they keep secret similar to the tempest, where the phantom city of Amaurot was the true mystery in the final zone. I imagine like many people are suggesting the Lunar Subterrane being the mysterious second half of the zone that they keep hidden and that they go all out with the design.
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    Last edited by FrightfulNight; 02-22-2021 at 09:49 AM.

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    My guess is it will depend on the nature of the moon. That's likelier to be the surprise than where the zone is.

    Quote Originally Posted by van_arn View Post
    Come to think of it, we've only seen Zodiark/the Ascian's perspective in all of this. Perhaps Endwalker is the Star's/Hyd's perspective, and we find out there's a loophole we can exploit.

    Something like being able to undo the sundering of the land (after all, Hyd is the one that caused it) without killing the people living on the shards.

    We could potentially end up in a (almost) restored world, Ryne and Gaia could join the Scions, and the logo would actually be a picture of the Star, rather than the moon-- just with a gaping hole where the Void resides.
    Well strictly speaking, no. We heard her side of it first, some time in 3.2 I believe. We also saw more of it - this time on a more objective basis - during 5.2 after Anamnesis Anyder. I am guessing we will get further revelations as to her motives and whether there was someone else behind the whole crisis (Fandaniel has some "big secret", apparently), but it's fairer to say she just hasn't commented yet on what we've seen in 5.0. We've certainly had her perspective in spades, though. Maybe we'll see a bit more about Venat.

    I'd like for some way to undo the Sundering, since they likely won't proceed with the Rejoinings plot, but at this stage I'm doubtful they'll do it, and even more doubtful that Hydaelyn has the first clue on how to undo it. She's not the star. Just a primal inside it that took another primal's place. Albeit both sophisticated primals.

    Quote Originally Posted by Unholychinchilla View Post
    You're thinking of Pandaemonium, the 8-man which has Lahabrea as the teaser. I was presenting the alliance raid, which we currently have no name or teaser image for, as an alternative to the quote I posted.

    But yeah I'm hoping Pandaemonium involves the heart of sabik, if 6.0 MSQ doesn't. Somebody asked about it in a pre-ShB Q&A and Yoshi said he can't say what it was because it might be a spoiler, so yeah we're definitely not done with that.
    Some of the mystery of it has been removed by the fact that it's an auracite essentially, but they could always add to it by explaining where it got its name and how its use figured into Zodiark's existence. My guess is it was his "battery".

    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    You say 'likely' but there's literally nothing to connect those things at all. Nothing more than a link to Hydaelyn or the planets core at any rate.
    It's all baseless speculation.

    We were however told that Pandaemonium takes place in an entire new location. While gaining access to this new location via Silvertear is obviously still an option, this 'new location' was made to sound important or unusual.
    Given that Pandemonium is from hell, I'd wager it's location is in Tartarus.
    Maybe the "seven hells" will come into it, since we've no real understanding of what they are. They're elemental in nature, and it's very possible they are quite literally inside the planet.
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    Last edited by Lauront; 02-22-2021 at 10:33 AM.
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    I do feel like we're a touch overdue for actually seeing the aetherial sea and Hydaelyn herself in person, as they have to physically exist somewhere deep within the planet.

    If the moon somehow ends up not being our final zone, I could see the heart of world being where everything finally comes to an end.
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