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    Quote Originally Posted by Izanagi_Fiaresu View Post
    XI is in maintenance mode, so they kinda have. No more content updates for it.

    Also its just the fact only a small % can even do ultima so the player pool there is just small.
    You haven’t been paying attention. There’sa storyline ongoing right now.

    Even if you agree XI should shut down just to be contrarian, FFXIV should be shut down because it is less popular than wow, and wow should be shut down because it’s less popular than fortnite. All console and PC gaming should be shut down in favor of mobile gaming.

    Niches are important. Just because content is good with metrics doesn’t mean players enjoy that content. Just because content is broadly unpopular doesn’t mean players don’t love it. The pvp (not roulette cheese) community in this game is a good example of this.

    The single easiest way to design all sense of fun out of a game is to only push popular. That’s what pushed garrisons in wow, and it’s what pushes the most boring roulettes in ffxiv. Not fun, not good gameplay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by van_arn View Post
    You haven’t been paying attention. There’sa storyline ongoing right now.

    Even if you agree XI should shut down just to be contrarian, FFXIV should be shut down because it is less popular than wow, and wow should be shut down because it’s less popular than fortnite. All console and PC gaming should be shut down in favor of mobile gaming.

    Niches are important. Just because content is good with metrics doesn’t mean players enjoy that content. Just because content is broadly unpopular doesn’t mean players don’t love it. The pvp (not roulette cheese) community in this game is a good example of this.

    The single easiest way to design all sense of fun out of a game is to only push popular. That’s what pushed garrisons in wow, and it’s what pushes the most boring roulettes in ffxiv. Not fun, not good gameplay.
    Like I gave you the benefit of a doubt with my response, but with that extreme strawmanning its obvious you are a troll.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Izanagi_Fiaresu View Post
    Like I gave you the benefit of a doubt with my response, but with that extreme strawmanning its obvious you are a troll.
    It's not much of a strawman since XI is getting storyline content even now.

    XI isn't popular, but that doesn't mean its community doesn't count on Square to keep things fresh. The same goes for the players that enjoy Ultimate, PVP, or other things Square supports.

    Metrics are overrated. If anything, content too popular with players should be fought against in a game this diverse; popularity, especially in mindless content, is a sign players are happily sacrificing time with something they could enjoy for a lazier -- and not as engaging -- "safe" alternative.

    Main Scenario Roulette is a perfect example of players failing to account for opportunity cost and ultimately limiting what they get out of the game because they'd rather take the path of least resistance. The popularity of MSQ Roulette certainly doesn't mean we need another Praetorium.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    Admittedly, this is the one feature is I'm actually kinda hyped about. I want to know more, but we will get nothing for 3 months.
    We've gotten nothing on this since Yoshi mentioned it in Shadowbringers interviews. What's a few more months.
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    Last edited by van_arn; 02-21-2021 at 02:55 PM.