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    Quote Originally Posted by Endeleon View Post
    Seriously, what are they talking about. Casuals like SarahKey are incredibly popular, whereas the ultimate raiders like Venosys have a pretty negative reception in fandom and literally no one knows them outside of it. No one cares about Ultimate except the people playing Ultimate. I'm not saying they shouldn't make it, but when shit like COVID happens(which, is a serious set back despite what basement dwellers want to believe), it should be the first to go. Accessibility before exclusivity.

    Also the entire reason Shadowbringers got a 90 metacritic was the story lmfao. Raiders are pretty universally disappointed by Shadowbringers, proving that they are so few to not even impact the review scores or care more about story than raiding.
    If raiders are "pretty universally disappointed" by Shadowbringers, then that means Square needs to do better. Same with PVPers.

    Everyone can enjoy the story. The various types of players need to be satisfied with the game, though, not exclusively story-only players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by van_arn View Post
    If raiders are "pretty universally disappointed" by Shadowbringers, then that means Square needs to do better. Same with PVPers.

    Everyone can enjoy the story. The various types of players need to be satisfied with the game, though, not exclusively story-only players.
    It is obvious that this game doesn't get the budget and staff it needs. When it shows it REALLY shows.
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    While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by van_arn View Post
    If raiders are "pretty universally disappointed" by Shadowbringers, then that means Square needs to do better. Same with PVPers.

    Everyone can enjoy the story. The various types of players need to be satisfied with the game, though, not exclusively story-only players.
    ??? Where did I say Square doesn't need to do better? I said the pandemic hit everyone like a truck, things had to be sacrificed to keep even a moderately smooth game running. I'm literally only talking about majority here. Who is going to be selling their game, hyping the game, reviewing the game en masse? Not the 10000 ultimate raiders in the existence of planet earth, that what. Obviously a business would focus on the majority here, when they have to downsize due to production issues.

    Do I want them to focus on improvements when it's humane to do so? Of course I do. But you people seem to really have lost touch with the fact that there are humans making this game who may have had family members die, may have gotten sick themselves, and are impacted by this pandemic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Endeleon View Post
    ??? Where did I say Square doesn't need to do better? I said the pandemic hit everyone like a truck, things had to be sacrificed to keep even a moderately smooth game running. I'm literally only talking about majority here. Who is going to be selling their game, hyping the game, reviewing the game en masse? Not the 10000 ultimate raiders in the existence of planet earth, that what. Obviously a business would focus on the majority here, when they have to downsize due to production issues.

    Do I want them to focus on improvements when it's humane to do so? Of course I do. But you people seem to really have lost touch with the fact that there are humans making this game who may have had family members die, may have gotten sick themselves, and are impacted by this pandemic.
    You're putting words in my mouth. Pandemic has caused issues, yes, but production issues are an aside to Shadowbringers being a slow walk as a whole compared to Stormblood or Heavensward.

    This was true before the pandemic, just as it's true now. The pandemic only slowed things down further.

    Perhaps they've devoted their time to FFXVI instead, but Ultimate is only one feature delayed (and for the purposes of Shadowbringers, canceled.) Endwalker's looking like Shadowbringers 2.0, in terms of stuff they mentioned they wanted to do but didn't get around to in shadowbringers; I've yet to see much system-level that wasn't mentioned in a Shadowbringers interview. That includes private gardens, stat squish, belt removal, among other things.

    They're severely backlogged, and I'm not sure of the cause. It isn't entirely down to the pandemic, though, since they were behind from the start of Shadowbringers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by van_arn View Post
    If raiders are "pretty universally disappointed" by Shadowbringers, then that means Square needs to do better. Same with PVPers.

    Everyone can enjoy the story. The various types of players need to be satisfied with the game, though, not exclusively story-only players.
    For real! If FFXIV had good PvP, dedicated more resources and time to it. I would be in heaven. It would be the perfect game. Literally the only reason I even bought WoW late in Legion was for PvP! I made me a priest healer, and just sat and did lowbie PvP. That's all I did! While I think/thought WoW's PvP, the rest of the game doesn't pull me in - granted I didn't really try. This game pulls me in, but the PvP is in such a sad state..

    While I have never really a PvE player, I can relate..
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