Yoshi P confirmed they CUT ultimate content from 6.0 not DELAY

[Floortank]

No one even cares about the story, I personally skip all the cutscenes and I know many others who does the same. The only thing that matters in this game is the battle content.

Edit: This is clearly the case in streaming platforms. Ultimate fights draws tens of thousands of viewers while people who stream the story only get like single digit viewers if any!

I watch all the biggest ultimate streamers and those streams have 200~300 viewers on average. Tens of thousands? no.

[Floortank]

Not really. This is the first time I've seen Yoshida need to apologize directly in a live letter for their failure to follow through. Keep in mind I'm just as "old and tired."

Furthermore, our personal feelings don't matter in regards to ultimate compared to the fact Square said they'd do something, strung players along for a year, and then went loljk. That costs trust, rightfully so.

Even if you hate ultimate, you shouldn't condone the strung players along for a year part.

People who stay subbed all year for content that drops three times every two years, are not being strung along.

Let's not pretend the entire rest of this game is worthless garbage mmkay?

[Alaray]

I can't say I'm surprised, to be honest. A small part of me was putting out a small amount of hope that they'd be doing 3 for the next expansion, but not being able to commit to 2 is rough to hear.

That said, I don't think other content ought to be cut out of the game in favor of another piece of content. I'm very firmly of the opinion that the game ought to have both (be it DRS/Ultimate, Blue Mage/Ultimate, Island Sanctuaries/DRS/Ultimate/Blue Mage etc...) and if the FFXIV Dev team is struggling for time and resources, then for Square Enix proper to provide them the resources required.

Since, I don't think the statements from the individual devs are lies or wrong about being stressed for time, about being too spread thin, not having resources etc... but I do believe then that the team -- from this multi-million dollar corporation -- should be given those resources. But I know that, unless it'd somehow increase revenue for the company, they won't likely receive those resources and now that an Ultimate (and possibly 2) are being cut out, I genuinely worry about cutting content becoming a theme that everyone starts to feel in their parts of the game they, themselves, like and enjoy. (And I want to reiterate: I'm very upset to hear all this news regarding Ultimate, especially when it is a cornerstone spectacle to the game and one of the most competitive pieces of content, that lasts the longest, in the game. And my case about DRS isn't so much "Ultimate shoulda been cut lol" but had much more to do with -- We should be able to expect both).

I don't feel like SE is above the general stratagem of "cut expensive to produce things to lower costs incurred" especially after that craptastic Marvel game. So I'm not going to give the corporation an ounce of sympathy.

[Aomine1992]

“Twitch channels” “breach of trust” lol I like Ultimate too but some of you are just whining at this point. I am starting to think they should have never brought up Ultimate or simply did 1 per expansion.

Not many people watch those streams they are boring trust me I’ve tried when I was learning UWU, I’ve seen people more hype over Midas than ultimate. Well technically Midas was kind of like the 1st ulti. Point is, yes it does matter that Ultimate has fell through. It’s terrible. Is it the end of the world? Absolutely not. Do you only play this game to raid? If yes than you kind of are your own problem, once again MMOs offer a variety of things catering to many. You need to seek enjoyment in other things or well your world will continue to crumble as it is now.

[Fawkes]

It's been discussed at length within the respective threads for the missing genders already, though they sold 2.0 as an apology and improvement over 1.0 and the many flaws it had. One of which was the removal of single gender playable races. Personally I'm inclined to take statements from businessmen, especially in the current climate, with a hefty pinch of salt.

Eeh, I don't think missing catboys and muscle-maidens was on very many people's lists of flaws with 1.0. It basically had the same races as FFXI and that was fine.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

No one even cares about the story, I personally skip all the cutscenes and I know many others who does the same. The only thing that matters in this game is the battle content.

Speak for yourself. Just because you dont care about the MSQ does not mean "No one even cares about the story"
Even streamers and people who tune in care about the story, so you are wrong on both fronts

[Theodric]

Eeh, I don't think missing catboys and muscle-maidens was on very many people's lists of flaws with 1.0. It basically had the same races as FFXI and that was fine.

A lot of people, myself included, gave FFXI a hard pass specifically because it had gender locked races. I've always found such concepts to be pretty tacky and was pleased when the decision was reversed for 2.0 and beyond. In Heavensward, Raen and Xaela were added as a full playable race. We didn't get any new playable races in Stormblood, which is fine - but adding more gender locked races in Shadowbringers was a major step backwards in my opinion.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

Eeh, I don't think missing catboys and muscle-maidens was on very many people's lists of flaws with 1.0.

It wasn't, but for some reason it keeps getting brought up like it saved FFXIV.
Like the game itself doesn't matter, just gender locking

[Starflake]

I'm quite tired of toxic people telling me that just because the majority of people don't do said content, I shouldn't be getting said content. Over two years and for an Ultimate, over three years for a Deep Dungeon. These are the things I care about the most. Potentially an Ultimate cut and looking at 1 Ultimate per expansion and people really out there acting like I can't be upset by that. I've said it before and I've said it again. The "casual" community in FFXIV is the most toxic community I have ever seen. Toxic positivity in its worst form. It also happens to be the worst community I've seen in general that puts in the effort. So I guess it makes sense that you guys getting farming content, crafter revamps nobody asks for, parasols, blue mage you only level and don't even do savage with, flying in ARR and reskinned extreme (unreal) for reskinned mount awards etc is just so much better than players like me who would like a hard fight twice in three years lmao. Got it

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

I'm quite tired of toxic people telling me that just because the majority of people don't do said content, I shouldn't be getting said content. Over two years and for an Ultimate, over three years for a Deep Dungeon. These are the things I care about the most. Potentially an Ultimate cut and looking at 1 Ultimate per expansion and people really out there acting like I can't be upset by that. I've said it before and I've said it again. The "casual" community in FFXIV is the most toxic community I have ever seen. Toxic positivity in its worst form. It also happens to be the worst community I've seen in general that puts in the effort. So I guess it makes sense that you guys getting farming content, crafter revamps nobody asks for, parasols, blue mage you only level and don't even do savage with, flying in ARR and reskinned extreme (unreal) for reskinned mount awards etc is just so much better than players like me who would like a hard fight twice in three years lmao. Got it

What about the 6 years since chocobo racing was updated?