Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[Dogempire]

Did Rabanastre the other day and someone said it was their 18th run there that day (I guess for the relic) and they died to Hashmal's half-arena attack. Not sure how you can do a fight that many times in one day and not learn a simple mechanic. Unless they were just trying to get carried, of course.

Happens, if you do 18 runs of the same dungeon in the same day you're probably just going to be zoning out near the end and probably miss simple things.

[Doozer]

Happens, if you do 18 runs of the same dungeon in the same day you're probably just going to be zoning out near the end and probably miss simple things.

It's not an excuse, though. If you queue for something, you're expected to play properly. Meanwhile, you get people in Syrcus Tower doing relics just standing at the exit of each adds area because they want to "go faster", even though they're slowing it down by not participating.

No one is forcing them to do it 18 times in one day. If they choose to do that, they'd better be playing adequately enough to not annoy their healers for no reason.

[Dogempire]

It's not an excuse, though. If you queue for something, you're expected to play properly. Meanwhile, you get people in Syrcus Tower doing relics just standing at the exit of each adds area because they want to "go faster", even though they're slowing it down by not participating.

No one is forcing them to do it 18 times in one day. If they choose to do that, they'd better be playing adequately enough to not annoy their healers for no reason.

Eh, I still think you're being a bit too harsh on them. I'm sure there's a lot of situations where you've gotten hit by things you should've known better than to get hit by, but you got distracted or missed it for whatever reason. Judging by your story that was the only time they died, so it's not like they're terrible at the raid, they just missed something that ended up being a one shot.

If I've learned anything from raiding Savage, it's that even the most consistent players will sometimes make mistakes they know better than to make. People are tired, they get distracted by other mechanics or Netflix on their other screen, someone barges into the room and starts asking them things, lots of reasons a person can get hit by something they should know better than to dodge. You just have to take things in stride and focus on not making things worse by not doing your job, whatever role that may be.

[Doozer]

Eh, I still think you're being a bit too harsh on them. I'm sure there's a lot of situations where you've gotten hit by things you should've known better than to get hit by, but you got distracted or missed it for whatever reason. Judging by your story that was the only time they died, so it's not like they're terrible at the raid, they just missed something that ended up being a one shot.

It's not the only time they died, they were terrible, and it's not being "harsh" to expect people to know how to play, especially in casual content. It's not hard. If they've done it that many times, they should be able to do the mechanics in their sleep by now. If they're too burnt out or "zoning out", maybe they should go do something else and stop slowing the rest of us down.

I don't know about you, but I'm very familiar with people lazily doing content because they know they'll get carried through it. This was one of those times. You don't know the whole story, so save your "judging by"s for someone else. Just because I was recalling a story from a few days ago and didn't give you every single detail so you could make a judgment call on whether I'm being a big meanie or not, that doesn't mean that's all that happened. This person isn't on trial, I'm just telling a story. Funny that people always come out to defend bad and lazy players.

[Pepsi_Plunge]

Happens, if you do 18 runs of the same dungeon in the same day you're probably just going to be zoning out near the end and probably miss simple things.

Agree. Happend to me too (but mostly in DR lately). I do the first runs without any mistakes but at some point in the grind you just start to zoom out, "fall asleep" for a few seconds (more like daydreaming) as it gets boring or you may just don't care anymore if you die or not.

[Dogempire]

It's not the only time they died, they were terrible, and it's not being "harsh" to expect people to know how to play, especially in casual content. It's not hard. If they've done it that many times, they should be able to do the mechanics in their sleep by now. If they're too burnt out or "zoning out", maybe they should go do something else and stop slowing the rest of us down.

I don't know about you, but I'm very familiar with people lazily doing content because they know they'll get carried through it. This was one of those times. You don't know the whole story, so save your "judging by"s for someone else. Just because I was recalling a story from a few days ago and didn't give you every single detail so you could make a judgment call on whether I'm being a big meanie or not, that doesn't mean that's all that happened. This person isn't on trial, I'm just telling a story. Funny that people always come out to defend bad and lazy players.

Not everyone mindlessly reads the stories here and assumes that the person posting them is always on the right side and is 100% correct.

I was pointing out my observation using the information you provided, of course I don't know the full story, I only know the details you choose to include, and if you want to include an incomplete story then you get responses based off an incomplete story. If you don't want people responding to the things you post with anything other than blind agreement then don't post.

[Mahoukenshi]

I tend to doze off/zoning out for a few seconds in dungeons not because I know the dungeon(s) in and out (lolno), but the activity itself is for me the epitome of repetition. Sometimes I get sleepy while waiting for the queue pop or as soon as I get ported in. And I don't have that many total dungeon runs so far (between 200-300 on this character).

[Doozer]

Not everyone mindlessly reads the stories here and assumes that the person posting them is always on the right side and is 100% correct.

I was pointing out my observation using the information you provided, of course I don't know the full story, I only know the details you choose to include, and if you want to include an incomplete story then you get responses based off an incomplete story. If you don't want people responding to the things you post with anything other than blind agreement then don't post.

I've seen hundreds of "incomplete stories" yet people like you only point it out when it's to defend bad players. I guess if you want to condone that sort of thing, by all means, you do you, lol.

[Dogempire]

I've seen hundreds of "incomplete stories" yet people like you only point it out when it's to defend bad players. I guess if you want to condone that sort of thing, by all means, you do you, lol.

Correlation doesn't equal causation, I only comment on posts that I actually have something to say about.

I wasn't posting to defend a "bad player," I didn't even know anything about their skill level other than that they've done the raid 18 times already and died once, and dying once doesn't automatically make you a bad player.

[Doozer]

Correlation doesn't equal causation, I only comment on posts that I actually have something to say about.

I wasn't posting to defend a "bad player," I didn't even know anything about their skill level other than that they've done the raid 18 times already and died once, and dying once doesn't automatically make you a bad player.

It's okay, you don't have to backpedal now, I get it.

EDIT, since some people don't understand when I'm concise: "I get it" means "I get that you're desperate to defend bad players and allow them to never put effort into content because better players will always carry them".