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  1. #171
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    Quote Originally Posted by TurtlesAWD View Post
    Yes it's clear I've lost you, but that's fine. As long as I'm in the zoo I can still holler at the animals.
    Ditto.

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  2. #172
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    Quote Originally Posted by TurtlesAWD View Post
    that this is different in a relevant, specific capacity than say, taping a button down (itself a form of absentee game automation)
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    I could tape a button down and leave the house or go to sleep,
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    If I tape a button down am I actually playing?
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    I could tape a button down and go to work.
    You keep coming back to this idea.
    How do you buy a house by taping down the button?
    Taping it down doesn't provide repeated inputs.
    It also doesn't help when you need to push left in order to confirm you want to buy the house (otherwise you'll select "no" on the confirmation box).
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  3. #173
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    Quote Originally Posted by ItMe View Post
    You keep coming back to this idea.
    How do you buy a house by taping down the button?
    Taping it down doesn't provide repeated inputs.
    It also doesn't help when you need to push left in order to confirm you want to buy the house (otherwise you'll select "no" on the confirmation box).
    Because RMT bots, market board bots, gatherer bots, crafting bots, dungeon bots and housing bots are akin to holding a button down AKA automation and therefore should be allowed. Why should it matter if I'm in front of the screen or not?

    This is sarcasm for anyone not following the thread.
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  4. #174
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    Quote Originally Posted by ItMe View Post
    You keep coming back to this idea.
    How do you buy a house by taping down the button?
    Taping it down doesn't provide repeated inputs.
    It also doesn't help when you need to push left in order to confirm you want to buy the house (otherwise you'll select "no" on the confirmation box).
    This seems fair to discuss. In this specific game holding the button down won't do what I've described I suppose (it does work this way in other games). The example of a controller with a turbo button was brought up a couple pages back so perhaps that's a more apt example. But I mean to use these as specific examples of a general idea that input can be automated both physically, and via non-invasive software. If the example I used was incorrect I don't think it excludes the possibility of other methods being possible.

    I suspect I'd have a better idea what that looked like if I'd actually done it, y'know
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  5. #175
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    Quote Originally Posted by TurtlesAWD View Post
    This seems fair to discuss. In this specific game holding the button down won't do what I've described I suppose (it does work this way in other games). The example of a controller with a turbo button was brought up a couple pages back so perhaps that's a more apt example. But I mean to use these as specific examples of a general idea that input can be automated both physically, and via non-invasive software. If the example I used was incorrect I don't think it excludes the possibility of other methods being possible.

    I suspect I'd have a better idea what that looked like if I'd actually done it, y'know
    Install a lag switch for playing on an online game. See if it gets you banned. Enough with this software VS hardware debate.
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  6. #176
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    So I wanna know since its fine for pc players to use auto clickers, when will we, the Playstation player be able to get these Mods so we can bot? Because obviously it seems like the only way to go so we can be on par with the cheating PC bastards.
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    Turbo controllers have existed since the dawn of time
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  8. #178
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    As someone with physical disabilities, I agree the housing system is quite terrible and aggressive repetitive clicking to attempt to win a house is not terribly accessible.

    That said, it's still in the ToS that we cannot use third-party programs, and I abide by that, and do not expect to be allowed to break the rules and use third-party programs at this time.
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  9. #179
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    I don't buy the argument that using a script is the same as standing around for fourteen hours clicking manually.

    Everything worth earning in FFXIV comes from a commitment of time.

    By using a script you are robbing someone else of their commitment by not even being at the keyboard when you buy the plot.
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  10. #180
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    Also protip: Don't stand around 14 hours clicking. There are community-driven resources to help track when plots pop and resources that have figured out the window a house can actually pop in is much smaller than it seems if you know when a plot became available.
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