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  1. #81
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barwara View Post
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    Save your effort, it seems people in this thread are not able to look outside the box and accept another opinion or point of view. If you don't live 100% by the rules you are the criminal that deserves to be punished, no matter how reasonable your motive or argument is.
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    Last edited by Missbone; 02-17-2021 at 07:08 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Missbone View Post
    Save your effort, it seems people in this thread are not able to look outside the box and accept another opinion or point of view. If you don't live 100% by the rules you are the criminal that deserves to be punished, no matter how reasonable your motive or argument is.
    this is so funny. OP cheated, regardless of any understanding of their reasoning, did so in an incredibly lazy way (they make programs that will stop if they reach a menu that is not the housing purchase menu to prevent this situation, or heck even just keeping the 14 tab open and keeping an eye onwhat the program is actually doing), and so another player got an easy 7 million gil.

    its not a deep philosophical thing. its just funny and I will continue to laugh at them.
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  3. #83
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    Barwara Sasna
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    Quote Originally Posted by Missbone View Post
    Save your effort, it seems people in this thread are not able to look outside the box and accept another opinion or point of view. If you don't live 100% by the rules you are the criminal that deserves to be punished, no matter how reasonable your motive or argument is.
    It's a lot of banter, but mostly arguing pointlessly while agreeing on the same points.

    I'd personally push the topic further and say that if you partake in the current system of placard camping, you're just supporting the system and showing SE this is something you're willing to do, even if it sucks. You shouldn't? If you disagree in any way with the system, you should boycott it. But obviously people won't do that, cause they really want a house. :P
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  4. #84
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    Quote Originally Posted by Missbone View Post
    If you don't live 100% by the rules you are the criminal that deserves to be punished, no matter how reasonable your motive or argument is.
    That is how the world works, yes.

    You purchase the game and decide to use the product, which creates an agreement between you and the company that you abide by their rules. You tick "yes" to "I agree to the terms and conditions". Whatever your opinion on those rules is or how reasonable you feel they are, you've agreed to follow them.

    So yes, breaking them is wrong and you deserve to be punished if you do. If you felt their rules were unreasonable, you have the choice to discontinue using the product.
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  5. #85
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mavrias View Post
    this is so funny. OP cheated, regardless of any understanding of their reasoning, did so in an incredibly lazy way (they make programs that will stop if they reach a menu that is not the housing purchase menu to prevent this situation, or heck even just keeping the 14 tab open and keeping an eye onwhat the program is actually doing), and so another player got an easy 7 million gil.

    its not a deep philosophical thing. its just funny and I will continue to laugh at them.
    Yeah, it's on them. I mean, using auto clickers is a risk and it's a choice. You reap the consequences. But it's just one face of the desperate lengths people go to get a house.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Missbone View Post
    If you don't live 100% by the rules you are the criminal that deserves to be punished, no matter how reasonable your motive or argument is.
    Yes. That's how this world should work. I hope OP gets a permanent ban.
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  7. #87
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
    That is how the world works, yes.

    You purchase the game and decide to use the product, which creates an agreement between you and the company that you abide by their rules. You tick "yes" to "I agree to the terms and conditions". Whatever your opinion on those rules is or how reasonable you feel they are, you've agreed to follow them.

    So yes, breaking them is wrong and you deserve to be punished if you do. If you felt their rules were unreasonable, you have the choice to discontinue using the product.
    I don't think anyone is contesting that.
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  8. #88
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baxcel View Post
    I think I'm more concerned about how a person that's this new to the game got at least 8m.. we can already confirm cheating with auto clicker.. maybe buying gil as well???
    Making gil is relatively easy even for a new player if they know what they are doing. That's not to say that there wasn't nefarious means involved because I don't know, but...it's not impossible. As to the rest...yeah, not really sure what to make of the situation to be honest, but most signs point to an auto clicker of some kind. If they were online when it happened, then they didn't just magically have their gil stolen. This is something I've heard of on more than one occasion. Someone is trying to game the system (as imperfect as it is), and someone else beats them to the punch. Then they set their own retainer up to give that auto clicker a lesson or two about not using them. lol
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    Last edited by Vahlnir; 02-17-2021 at 07:46 AM.
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    Personal Housing
    While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AtlasTheSnowman View Post
    I mean can we really call it a gear update? How in the world can you be level 63 and still using the bare minimum level 60 210 AF gear?
    Uhh.. this is my alt:



    I didn't do anything after MSQ level 50.. Just roulette occasionally..
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    WHM | RDM | DNC

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    If you're making yourself sick by clicking a placard hoping for a virtual house then you need a serious reality check.
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