Delubrum reward drop rates

[Hank_Hotspur]

I think my issue with Delubrum Reginae compared to Castrum Lacus Litore was that even though it was a pain to try to find a Castrum that actually had people in it, it was nice to get enough coins from a few runs you could get a piece of gear with, which gives the feeling like you are actually accomplishing something. I ran Castrum when it was out enough times to get coins fulls sets of Bozja Fending, Striking, and Casting (I did this before they patched coin rewards from fates and CEs) and all in my time doing them I only ever saw one upgrade token drop.

Now running Delubrum Reginae, chances of getting the hairstyle, mount, or a gold coin are so slim I could run it 15 times for the final relic step and end up with nothing, let alone enough coins to buy a single gear piece (with the exception of the weekly quest which I feel is addressing an issue that shouldn't exist). So even though the fights are fun on their own, the entire DR run experience feels like a slog now because you play through a very long raid multiple times without anything to show for at the end of it.

I think a solution would be to add the mount and hairstyles to the DR items supplier for a number of gold or silver coins. Extreme trials hand out tokens that can be used to buy mounts after 99 unsuccessful runs, the difference here is that after 99 DR runs you aren't guaranteed anything. A thing I know that would keep me interested in running DR more would be to allow the Law's Order gear to be dyed without augmenting, because right now the augmentation steps are an ungodly slog that kills all interest just looking at it, but that's more of a personal preference

[Vahlnir]

I think a solution would be to add the mount and hairstyles to the DR items supplier for a number of gold or silver coins. Extreme trials hand out tokens that can be used to buy mounts after 99 unsuccessful runs, the difference here is that after 99 DR runs you aren't guaranteed anything. A thing I know that would keep me interested in running DR more would be to allow the Law's Order gear to be dyed without augmenting, because right now the augmentation steps are an ungodly slog that kills all interest just looking at it, but that's more of a personal preference

Yeah, this would help incentivize people a great deal, though I do think that if they would add them to the vendor that the cost should still be somewhat high. But it would serve as a way for people to work toward their goal. As far as these sets being dyeable without augmentation...I wouldn't be opposed, I guess. The Fending set is fine as is for me, but having the option to dye it would be nice without having to sacrifice my soul and my hypothetical first born child.

[StriderShinryu]

Yeah, this would help incentivize people a great deal, though I do think that if they would add them to the vendor that the cost should still be somewhat high. But it would serve as a way for people to work toward their goal.

Yes, absolutely. While I do think the 99 tokens required for one of the Ex mounts is absolutely absurd, even though the fights are much shorter and can eventually be near completely outgeared/outlevelled, I do think that's still the ideal way forward. Leave the low chance of drop in place as is and even continue letting people get it once they have it so that the Marketability doesn't suffer too much, but let those who are okay with working towards the long goal do it while they are still hoping for the lucky drop.

[Fluxating]

It's not just the drop rates for the hairstyle and mount that are bad, but also the fragments. I've used up pretty much all my offensive actions at this point and only once or twice have I earned any back while in there. I could go and farm some more in the southern front or castrum, but why bother? Why spend a bunch of time farming up resources to just waste them for nothing? I've got a few more runs left to finish off my second weapon and then I'm done with running it.

After a certain point really low drop rates stop becoming incentives to keep running content and become demoralising, making players wonder why they should keep bothering when after 30+ runs they haven't recieved an even halfway decent drop.

[Oichi]

It's not just the drop rates for the hairstyle and mount that are bad, but also the fragments. I've used up pretty much all my offensive actions at this point and only once or twice have I earned any back while in there. I could go and farm some more in the southern front or castrum, but why bother? Why spend a bunch of time farming up resources to just waste them for nothing? I've got a few more runs left to finish off my second weapon and then I'm done with running it.

After a certain point really low drop rates stop becoming incentives to keep running content and become demoralising, making players wonder why they should keep bothering when after 30+ runs they haven't recieved an even halfway decent drop.

Exactly. And I say this after more than 60 runs.

[Fawkes]

I think my issue with Delubrum Reginae compared to Castrum Lacus Litore was that even though it was a pain to try to find a Castrum that actually had people in it, it was nice to get enough coins from a few runs you could get a piece of gear with, which gives the feeling like you are actually accomplishing something. I ran Castrum when it was out enough times to get coins fulls sets of Bozja Fending, Striking, and Casting (I did this before they patched coin rewards from fates and CEs) and all in my time doing them I only ever saw one upgrade token drop.

I think it's pretty easy to get a fully augmented Bozjan set now since you can buy the upgrade items with coins. But with the Law's Order gear there's no way for me to ever augment it, because the drops only come from savage. If I could buy them with coins then I could be working toward something at least, but as it is the silver/gold coins are completely worthless to me. I'm not going to buy the non-augmented non-dyeable gear, since the only stat that matters is the augmented haste and everything else is synced so my augmented bozjan gear is better. And it's not worth it to me to collect glamour that I can't dye.

[ForteNightshade]

It's not just the drop rates for the hairstyle and mount that are bad, but also the fragments. I've used up pretty much all my offensive actions at this point and only once or twice have I earned any back while in there. I could go and farm some more in the southern front or castrum, but why bother? Why spend a bunch of time farming up resources to just waste them for nothing? I've got a few more runs left to finish off my second weapon and then I'm done with running it.

After a certain point really low drop rates stop becoming incentives to keep running content and become demoralising, making players wonder why they should keep bothering when after 30+ runs they haven't recieved an even halfway decent drop.

The really irony that shows off how poorly thought out their reward structure is by selling the Fragments you purchase with cluster, you'll eventually have enough to buy the hairstyle outright in likely less time than it takes to complete Delubrum enough for it to drop. Unless you're incredibly lucky.

Once again, this reeks of them artificially drawing things out because Shadowbringers has almost nothing left to offer until September/October. At the same time, it misses the point of incentives. If people feel they're too outrageous, they won't bother. It's why the top 100 Feast reward has never once worked to attract new players towards PvP. It isn't an incentive if no one thinks they'll be able to rank high enough to get it. Sadly, the dev time is nothing if not notoriously stubborn.

[Teraluna]

The really irony that shows off how poorly thought out their reward structure is by selling the Fragments you purchase with cluster, you'll eventually have enough to buy the hairstyle outright in likely less time than it takes to complete Delubrum enough for it to drop. Unless you're incredibly lucky.

Once again, this reeks of them artificially drawing things out because Shadowbringers has almost nothing left to offer until September/October. At the same time, it misses the point of incentives. If people feel they're too outrageous, they won't bother. It's why the top 100 Feast reward has never once worked to attract new players towards PvP. It isn't an incentive if no one thinks they'll be able to rank high enough to get it. Sadly, the dev time is nothing if not notoriously stubborn.

This sums it up exactly. Spot on.

[Themarvin]

60+ runs. this far only gotten the mount.

[SturmChurro]

After a certain point really low drop rates stop becoming incentives to keep running content and become demoralising, making players wonder why they should keep bothering when after 30+ runs they haven't recieved an even halfway decent drop.

I stopped doing DR completely as soon as I got my fourth weapon. I haven't even been logging into the game anymore. I want the rewards, but I don't think it's worth continuing to do 30-45 minute runs of DR and getting literally nothing. They are there, but they aren't for me. The weapons aren't cool enough on their own to justify this kind of time investment. I'm sorry.

60+ runs. this far only gotten the mount.

More than me. I've done 75+ runs, and gotten nothing at all.