Delubrum Reginae: my honest critique

[Liam_Harper]

When i Q up as DPS i dont wanna be in there spamming clunky heals, i literally never used any of the damage Actions ebcause i always need to heal myself.

It's not clunky, it's instant oGCD with a fairly generous range and the tank Raise is incredibly strong. The raidwides don't come that often so as hard as they might hit, just a few dps with Cure IV is more than enough if you lack a healer. The HoT it provides will do most of the work.
You also have no excuse not to use damage actions, because you get two slots + an Essence. So that's room for Cure IV, dps action and dps essence.

This whole idea of "I queued this role so that's all I'm doing" is selfish and straight up griefing your team. DR is not a standard Alliance raid. You are given lost actions and Essences for a reason and groups don't follow standard comps because you are meant to be utilizing those actions. If you don't want to use the toolkit given to you because you're a dps and feel entitled to only doing dps, don't queue.

Since DR consists of sparsely used non-lethal raidwides or instant-kills, defense boosting Essences are largely useless. This means all players should take a dps Essence. This is especially true for tanks and healers, who get 60-80% raw damage at no downside from the cheap Essences.

[Arohk]

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this took like an hour to clear.

[Mavrias]

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this took like an hour to clear.

Where's your dps essence? profane? aetherweaver? actions like banner of noble ends? font of mana?

[Arohk]

Where's your dps essence? profane? aetherweaver? actions like banner of noble ends? font of mana?

i used most of them up during the first 15 runs

[Arohk]

not a single tank in the entire raid, people left.

[Liam_Harper]

this took like an hour to clear.

It's a shame it ends up that way. WHM is an absolute monster of a dps in Delubrum. Font of Magic, Profane Essence and Lost Seraph Strike all stack together and create huge burst windows. I'm quite often top dps in runs, even when switching to Aetherweaver and healing my team. For example a recent run:



That's without dance partner, raid buffs and only using the cheap Profane rather than Deep, so you could easily go over 400k Misery's. A few tips for WHM:

-Always bring Essences, if you run out farm more. It's a habit people should get into when they're planning many runs for a relic to save everyone time. The Doblyns in the second section drop them and they're very easy to aoe farm with a tank. Or if you're a crafter, gather the mats for Coffee Biscuits, spam the crafter leve for a bit and buy fragments with the gil (nice trick for pocket change). The basic Profane/Aetherweaver are good enough.
-Get Lost Seraph Strike. It's incredible. It's actually 0 cost with Thin Air, a massive buff, deals high damage on use itself, and it has unlimited uses. Just one copy will last for all your future runs.
-Buff every Misery.
-If you've done the above that's plenty, but to push further Font of Magic or Noble Banner are best to pair with Seraph. Bring Lost Ether or Super Ether if you use Font, it'll drain a whole mana bar.

[Espon]

I wanna see a group tank it with Essence of the Veteran/Platebearer and Lost Incense.

[Kurique]

I don't think someone is entitled for queueing as a dps and wanting to play dps. I'm a raid healer. I literally play healer almost all the time. I get home from work, get on my mch and queue up to knock a few timeworn artifacts out of the way. The group has no tanks and a single astro for all 24 of us. The other parties aren't visible, so it's hard to tell the minefield we just walked into until the the mob starts spinning like a top. Some poor dps needed to pull out Lost Incense and everyone else cure IV. What actually happened though was boss took a few people out before anyone knew the problem. Then the stack happened, there were no shields and a few more people died. By the time the second stack happened, it did 87k and anyone wearing a dps essence and not with the astro died. We killed the first boss out of spite and disbanded.

At the very least, showing us the make up of all three parties would allow us a heads up and the ability to plan.

[Luin]

I think the bosses in there were interesting and offered a decent challenge for going in blind, a lot of new mechanics i have not seen in other boss fights resulting in me dieing a lot to find out what their attacks do.

But here is my biggest problem, the unbalance of parties, my group got 1 healer and 7 dps, the poor astro couldn't keep up with the healeing and i had to help out spamming Vitaga, i used uo 75 charges of vitaga to keep the party alive. but another group got 4 healers in their party.
This resulted in a rather frustrating experience as people just died because they got no healing in time.

It would be a lot more enjoyable if parties were balanced as they are in normal alliance raids, 1 Tank, 2 healer, 5 dps.

what if you go in there and don't have a single tank or healer? you are screwed.

DR can be tanked and healed without any tanks or healers. The only issue one might encounter is Cleansing Slash if there are zero healers to Esuna the Doom, but that can be handled by Resistance Medikits or raising the tank and they can Incense the boss.

I've tanked DR on Scholar, Machinist, Samurai, and Dragoon. I've healed it on Bard.

The AST was likely dying to mechanics, because there is very little healing required in this raid - even so, players could have used Autopotions or Resistance Potions to selfheal, because damage is so infrequent.

Additionally, if players are so fearful of actually using the lost action system as intended, then they can reform parties inside of DR to address role imbalance. The parties in this example could have swapped the DPS and healers.

not a single tank in the entire raid, people left.

Somebody could have used Incense, Deep Platebearer, and Font of Power/Manawall, and tanked.

The tools are there, people refuse to use them. This is not the game's fault.

I wanna see a group tank it with Essence of the Veteran/Platebearer and Lost Incense.

The biggest issue is aggro. I opened with Recite+Indom tanking on SCH, and I still think strong burst like Irregular WAR could rip hate.

[Rosenstrauch]

The only issue one might encounter is Cleansing Slash if there are zero healers to Esuna the Doom, but that can be handled by Resistance Medikits or raising the tank and they can Incense the boss.

One thing I discovered while tanking that fight is that if Cleansing Slash doesn't deal HP damage, it also won't inflict any debuffs. This might be easier said than done, though.