Zenos too stupid to be a villain?

[linayar]

Um, everything? You didn’t get life-threatening or world-threatening vibes from those villains? I think you’re doing it (RPGing) wrong.

Life-threatening and world-threatening to others? Sure. I get that from Zenos too as he's killed people. Threatening to me? Nope. Even when my character die, I'll just get stronger and eventually beat them. That's the right way to do RPG. If I'm going to be scared because the enemy might kill me permanently, then I'll never step out of the starting area at level 1. A good RPG always provides a way for my character to win.

[Novae]

This guy is not a vilain anymore. A daydreamer maybe. Or a poet. 'My friend, my enemyyyyyyyyyyyy,,,".
He will become the Wandering Minstrel after leaving the Scions in 9.0.

[Jkap_Goat]

Zenos is boring

[MaiSuu]

Agreed, my least favorite villain, kinda bummed to see him return. I'm not a fan of return-villains. Stay dead, please. I'm hoping it's as some have suggested and he's more like a 'middle' boss, or I've lost some faith in this next expansion.

[Xeronia]

I gotta say I love how everyone has written Zenos off already after it took... 3 expansion for the Ascians to have a their plot even partially explained. I have hope much like Elidibus who stood there for multiple expansions monologing we can pull something out of Zenos yet.

[VirusOnline]

I like Zenos. He's refreshing. Single-minded. Doesn't care about the world. I think he is actually highly intelligent.

This is one of the main reasons why I adore Zenos. But the team wrote only one side of him . . . so far ?

The biggest issue though is it feels the team doesn't know how to involve him in the story at an emotional level to the player, which has caused him to be seen as uneccessary and a nuisance.
We don't know anything about him. The sole thing we know is that he loves a challenge, but like wth kinda jank interview response is that.
What has made him the way he is ? What makes him angry ? What triggers his emotions ? More importantly what I'm asking is : who is Zenos other than his desire for a dysfunctional sense of friendship through his own bloody defeat in battle ?
At this point he's a watered down character from HxH. He has less personality than a random at greed island.

These are questions we can easily answer about the Anti-Villain Emet-Selch and it's what has made most of us absolutely love him.

[SturmChurro]

I gotta say I love how everyone has written Zenos off already after it took... 3 expansion for the Ascians to have a their plot even partially explained. I have hope much like Elidibus who stood there for multiple expansions monologing we can pull something out of Zenos yet.

No.. I like him as is. I don't think Zenos really needs a sob story like everyone else. That's why he is refreshing. He's a pretty good villain, and change of pace really.

This is one of the main reasons why I adore Zenos. But the team wrote only one side of him . . . so far ?

The biggest issue though is it feels the team doesn't know how to involve him in the story at an emotional level to the player, which has caused him to be seen as uneccessary and a nuisance.
We don't know anything about him. The sole thing we know is that he loves a challenge, but like wth kinda jank interview response is that.
What has made him the way he is ? What makes him angry ? What triggers his emotions ? More importantly what I'm asking is : who is Zenos other than his desire for a dysfunctional sense of friendship through his own bloody defeat in battle ?
At this point he's a watered down character from HxH. He has less personality than a random at greed island.

These are questions we can easily answer about the Anti-Villain Emet-Selch and it's what has made most of us absolutely love him.

Zenos isn't really angry, he is apathetic; bored. Looking for a thrill, that only the WoL can give him. He is mysterious, highly intelligent, capable. Everything is simply a nuisance to him, just something between him and his quarry.

[Vahlnir]

No.. I like him as is. I don't think Zenos really needs a sob story like everyone else. That's why he is refreshing. He's a pretty good villain, and change of pace really.

He was a good villain...from the start of Stormblood to the end of the launch MSQ. I liked having a rival, but that should have been the end of him. Period.

[Xeronia]

No.. I like him as is. I don't think Zenos really needs a sob story like everyone else. That's why he is refreshing. He's a pretty good villain, and change of pace really.

Zenos isn't really angry, he is apathetic; bored. Looking for a thrill, that only the WoL can give him. He is mysterious, highly intelligent, capable. Everything is simply a nuisance to him, just something between him and his quarry.

I mean more in that things around him could be explained better.(Mainly some stuff from say his short story locked behind buying the Chronicles of Light and that question Fandaniel had about him of "Could he have found a way.") I am perfectly fine with how he is now but I always felt we were lacking an explanation about much around him that may help some people.

[SturmChurro]

He was a good villain...from the start of Stormblood to the end of the launch MSQ. I liked having a rival, but that should have been the end of him. Period.

Zenos is a man who cares nothing for the ascian's plots, he is willing to take down a God, and destroy the world. No rhyme, no reason. That's truly scary. The ascians had their own twisted sense of morality, Zenos doesn't. It's all being done for the thrill of the hunt. To make the WoL fight HARDER for what is at stake. To make the final battle unforgettable.

I mean more in that things around him could be explained better.(Mainly some stuff from say his short story locked behind buying the Chronicles of Light and that question Fandaniel had about him of "Could he have found a way.") I am perfectly fine with how he is now but I always felt we were lacking an explanation about much around him that may help some people.

I think it would dilute his character. He is better off being left as is, in my opinion.