Instead of cutting Ultimate from 5.5 why not cut bozja?

[MrJPtheAssassin]

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I never said ultimates was the same as savage. The way this post read is they should have cut bozja 48 man for ultimate. I don't see the point of making this post with the 48 man already out. The way it was explained said that it either you get your ultimate and delay the expac or get the expac out and push(or in some ppl eyes cut) the ultimate. I personally would have made the same decision in forcing on the expac. Bozja is here and it not going anywhere and there are ppl who was looking forward to the 48 man bc they enjoyed BA.

Also, the OP tried to insult me by calling me a casual and I'm not going to take that. As I said in my post I am doing the ultimates, I do raid and do pretty much 90% to 99% of all content they offer. So to try to insult me as he did I'm going to be vocal about it. There are all types of players in this game and that why I like it. I don't hate hardcore players or casual players. Also the OP doesn't seem like he has any empathy or sympathy for those who are affected by the pandemic. This isn't your normal game development year, we are still in the middle of a pandemic and also coming off one of the worst years the world has seen. So maybe instead of thinking about only himself he should be thankful we got any content at all this past year and we getting a expac in the fall. But hi as I said in my posts you, him and everyone else has the right to voice your complaints and tell into the void of the internet but the toxicity of this post will do only land on deaf ears bc it coming from a OP who sounds like a entitled little brat that is crying and bitching that he didn't get his way.

P.S your English was just fine so no worries

[CaedemSanguis]

this is my major issue with the whole thing; they knew it wasn't going to happen in time, and they said sweet FA for 8 weeks.

Same for me, pushed e8s week1, weeklys, for nothing x(

[Sathona]

[OrpheusKappa]

How about instead of cutting content (like bozja and ultimates) we cut OP

[Styrmwyda]

Like people have said, there is the little problem of the surge in Covid-19 in Japan recently. So of course there will be sacrifices, and it is harder to make Ultimates than it is to make Bozja.

[MPK]

Like people have said, there is the little problem of the surge in Covid-19 in Japan recently. So of course there will be sacrifices, and it is harder to make Ultimates than it is to make Bozja.

YoshiP said a while back that things are built way in advanced. They thought it was a good idea to prioritize a 48 man that's locked behind casual content over ultimate content which people have been waiting over 2 years for.

[WoW]

Just quick question i dont know if people have asked this haven't read all the posts, But i have seen people say if there will be not 3 ultimate they are cutting it or something like that what i want to know? is it confirm that we would get 2 ultimate in Ew or are people just assuming that just because we got 2 in the past or something. because if that the case it feels like the tank and healer thing before the shb and people got mad because what the they assumed was wrong

Yoshi P did say that they will do two ultimates per expansion back in SB.
https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme..._bad_news_for/

[Seraphor]

YoshiP said a while back that things are built way in advanced. They thought it was a good idea to prioritize a 48 man that's locked behind casual content over ultimate content which people have been waiting over 2 years for.

As I mentioned on the previous page, these aren't likely two competing assets.
Development of the new Ultimate most likely impacted progress on the upcoming stat squish far more than Delubrum Reginae. In fact I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if entirely different people worked on the fights.
Ultimate's don't really require much in the way of new graphical assets, it's more of a balancing project.

Also the last Ultimate came in patch 5.11, not 2 years ago, barely over 1 year.

[Spnr]

I don't think its even remotely possible to cut Bozja savage without cutting Bozja. They haven't cut Ultimate, merely delayed it because of the effects of the pandemic. It pretty much-delayed everything by 4-6 months. I'm sorry but delaying Ultimate which is made for 1% of the player base or cutting or delaying the next expansion is the right call. They literally said they couldn't do it in time because of the covid delay and getting Endwalker ready. If they had delayed Endwalker further, the majority of the player base would have up to a year without content and those of you moaning that you don't have Ultimate would have long unsubbed and vanished onto the next thing, or would be criticising the devs for the content drought. Essentially its a no brainer, bring a new expansion or 1 tiny bit of content, the tiny content lost. I hear a lot of people moan about casuals, and the content being made for them, but funnily enough, they are the ones that actually keep the game alive while Most HC raiding flit in do the content and then leave. In terms of value to the health of the game, it comes down to the bigger group, and the "casuals" are always going to win on that front. I class myself as semi-casual as I clear most savage tiers and despite everything, have managed to keep a constant sub bar 1 or days since ARR launch. In terms of content in this game, I can safely say there is A ton of it, the problem for a lot of players who call things "Garbage" is that the content is not to their liking. I often wonder though, if they fed back what exactly they didn't like about it to this forum, other than saying "its garbage" maybe the devs would have some basis to actually adjust the things people don't like.

There's no need of cutting any contents. I also think that making delays may solve the problem. But they could have delayed Bozja savage not Ultimate. Casual players basically DO NOT participate in Bozja SAVAGE, and the same goes for Ultimate.
The HC raiders overwhelmingly want Ultimate more than the Bozja savage, and there's no doubt about that.
Then, don`t you think it's pretty obvious which one to choose, right?
Need to note that these are based on the assumption that the cost that is to be spent on Bozja savage and Ultimate is the limited common factor that is available for only one of them.
Not many of HC raiders are angry about Endwalker having priority over Ultimate. They are angry about Bozja SAVEGE having priority over Ultimate.
Endwalker is not only for casual players. It's a way too big content to say that it's only for casuals. It basically is THE GAME itself. So I think making confrontation between casual players and hc players about Endwalker is completely inappropriate.

In addition, like LyraleiManagem said, Unless they release 3 ultimates in EW then it is virtually cancelled. There isn't much chance...but we'll have to wait and see about that.
So the delay isn't really a delay.. it'll more likely be a cancellation


Also, aside from that, having the delay announcement at this point is absolutely not understandable. They could have announced it way earlier. So many statics are formed. So many players were preparing for the Ultimate since December. It's not like it takes such short period of time to develope ultimate content. They probably did know that the Ultimate isn't going to make it on time way earlier. SE said only 70% were done. That means they probably knew it's not going to make it way earlier than that. They eventually wasted people's money and time, and they could have prevented that.

I think these are the reasons that people are mad at SE, and all of these sounds reasonable and pretty much make sense to me overall.

[Vahlnir]

There's no need of cutting any contents. I also think that making delays may solve the problem. But they could have delayed Bozja savage not Ultimate. Casual players basically DO NOT participate in Bozja SAVAGE, and the same goes for Ultimate.
The HC raiders overwhelmingly want Ultimate more than the Bozja savage, and there's no doubt about that.
Then, don`t you think it's pretty obvious which one to choose, right?
These are based on the assumption that the cost that is to be spent on Bozja savage and Ultimate is the limited common factor that is available for only one of them. Not many of HC raiders are angry about
Endwalker having priority over Ultimate. They are angry about Bozja SAVEGE having priority over Ultimate.
Endwalker is not only for casual players. It's a way to big content to say that it's only for casuals. It basically is THE GAME itself. So I think making confrontation between casual players and hc players about Endwalker is completely inappropriate.

In addition, like LyraleiManagem said, Unless they release 3 ultimates in EW then it is virtually cancelled. There isn't much chance...but we'll have to wait and see about that.
So delay isn't really a delay.. it'll more likely be a cancellation


Also, aside from that, having the delay announcement at this point is absolutely not understandable. They could have announced it way earlier. So many statics are formed. So many players were preparing for the Ultimate since December. It's not like it takes such short period of time to develope ultimate content. They probably did know that the Ultimate isn't going to make it on time way earlier. SE said only 70% were done. That means they probably knew it's not going to make it way earlier than that. They eventually wasted people's money and time, and they could have prevented that.

I think these are the reasons that people are mad at SE, and all of these sounds reasonable and pretty much make sense to me overall.

It was probably far easier to add a harder version of a raid that was going to be added anyway in an attempt to appease the more hardcore crowd. Time is money. I've heard the Savage version is no joke, too. At least that part of the player base got something.