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  1. #51
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    Fiona Silverstorm
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    As nice as it sounds, i wouldn't get my hopes up. Its SE we are talking about, they have already shown more than one time in the past that they don't think stuff to the end and release some half-baked something or stop supporting it completely at some point.
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  2. #52
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    Jojoya Joya
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renik View Post
    From the ffxiv subreddit discord:

    oroginal: http://ff14net.2chblog.jp/archives/57680177.html

    credit to iluna minori who posted it in discord.



    ■無人島開拓について
    Regarding Island Sanctuary

    ・今回は“スローライフ”がコンセプトなので他人と競い合うみたいなことは極力なくすようにしている
    The concept behind the content is to provide players with a more "slow life" (relaxing) feel so they are making sure any elements of competing with other players is avoided

    ・他人との交流はゼロではないが、基本は1人でやっていくコンテンツ
    You will still retain some form of communication with other players, but the content itself is largely solo

    ・貿易も自分が開拓した無人島の中で、特産物を植えたり育てたものをゲーム内のシステム内の流注と対話をしてギルを稼いでいく遊び
    Trading within Island Sanctuary and earning gil can be done by planting and growing specialities that you have cultivated, as well as interacting with the features in this game.

    ・貿易は興味がないから育てるだけで楽しいという遊び方でも損はしない作り
    They will make it so that even if you're not interested in trading but only want to do it just to grow crops, or specialities can also do so without facing through any loss/penalties.

    ・お気に入りのミニオンをめでたり連れてきた動物を育てるだけでもいい
    You are free to admire the minions you love and brought into, or just have fun growing animals you brought into Island Sanctuary.
    Which describes WoW garrisons in a nutshell.

    You had a herb garden and mine for gathering.
    You had crafting themed buildings that produced special items (but you could only have a max of 3 out of 10 options unless you kept rebuilding, which took both time and a considerable number of resources that were hard to accumulate).
    You had a Pet Menageries which would randomly pick 5-10 of your favorite companion pets (minions) and display them running around your Garrison.

    There was no actual housing. There were preset locations for monuments, guild banners and Archaeology artifacts that you could display if you had acquired the prerequisites needed. That, plus the building options, were as far as customization went. No decorations for creating themed areas or anything like that.

    You still had access to the usual game chat channels but no one else could enter your Garrison unless you invited them to a party.

    It was basically a spot to AFK while you played other games or watched YouTube/Netflix. You might spend a couple of days wandering around as you first set up your garrison but after that it was mostly dead content.

    This is not sounding any different. I seriously suggest setting your expectations low for this piece of content. If SE manages to deliver something more engaging than Garrisons then great, we get a nice surprise but nothing they've said so far makes me think that is going to happen.
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    Last edited by Jojoya; 02-08-2021 at 08:19 AM.

  3. #53
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    Hycinthus's Avatar
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    Alonzo Vivas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    Which describes WoW garrisons in a nutshell.

    You had a herb garden and mine for gathering.
    You had crafting themed buildings that produced special items (but you could only have a max of 3 out of 10 options unless you kept rebuilding, which took both time and a considerable number of resources that were hard to accumulate).
    You had a Pet Menageries which would randomly pick 5-10 of your favorite companion pets (minions) and display them running around your Garrison.

    There was no actual housing. There were preset locations for monuments, guild banners and Archaeology artifacts that you could display if you had acquired the prerequisites needed. That, plus the building options, were as far as customization went. No decorations for creating themed areas or anything like that.

    You still had access to the usual game chat channels but no one else could enter your Garrison unless you invited them to a party.

    It was basically a spot to AFK while you played other games or watched YouTube/Netflix. You might spend a couple of days wandering around as you first set up your garrison but after that it was mostly dead content.

    This is not sounding any different. I seriously suggest setting your expectations low for this piece of content. If SE manages to deliver something more engaging than Garrisons then great, we get a nice surprise but nothing they've said so far makes me think that is going to happen.
    I see your point although I’m still holding out hope that there is some kind of housing involved, I mean, there’s still time before 6.0, so hopefully they will consider this.
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  4. #54
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renik View Post
    From the ffxiv subreddit discord:

    oroginal: http://ff14net.2chblog.jp/archives/57680177.html

    credit to iluna minori who posted it in discord.



    ■無人島開拓について
    Regarding Island Sanctuary

    ・今回は“スローライフ”がコンセプトなので他人と競い合うみたいなことは極力なくすようにしている
    The concept behind the content is to provide players with a more "slow life" (relaxing) feel so they are making sure any elements of competing with other players is avoided

    ・他人との交流はゼロではないが、基本は1人でやっていくコンテンツ
    You will still retain some form of communication with other players, but the content itself is largely solo

    ・貿易も自分が開拓した無人島の中で、特産物を植えたり育てたものをゲーム内のシステム内の流注と対話をしてギルを稼いでいく遊び
    Trading within Island Sanctuary and earning gil can be done by planting and growing specialities that you have cultivated, as well as interacting with the features in this game.

    ・貿易は興味がないから育てるだけで楽しいという遊び方でも損はしない作り
    They will make it so that even if you're not interested in trading but only want to do it just to grow crops, or specialities can also do so without facing through any loss/penalties.

    ・お気に入りのミニオンをめでたり連れてきた動物を育てるだけでもいい
    You are free to admire the minions you love and brought into, or just have fun growing animals you brought into Island Sanctuary.
    Did it say anything whether friends can visit?
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  5. #55
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    Zaetia Pryce
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hycinthus View Post
    -How about farming? Do we expect full Harvestmoon style farming, or more like WoW mini-farming?
    -Are you looking forward to it, or it will just be a gimmicky thing?
    This is the thing, I'm most hyped for about 6.0. Hoping it has the best features of Harvest Moon/Animal Crossing and the likes.

    With the reveal that Ishgard housing is going to be more of the traditional wards - I'm now very inclined to think that in SE's view, ward housing is working as intended.

    I'm hoping that the Island Sanctuary will provide every with player with instanced housing at least that other players can visit. I'd be over the moon, if it had access to gardening/workshops.
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  6. #56
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    Baxcel Farshot
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    Kinda reminds me of Mabinogi's homestead system combined with its Mechant system..

    You get a plot of land decorate it as you see fit add items for specific gathering an crafting.. an thing you grow can be transported from their to towns across the world, while checking the profit amount per town.
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  7. #57
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    Arkadya Dravena
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    Excalibur
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    SE you cowards let me smooch an npc!!!

    My expectations are higher than what they've talked about so far. What they've talked about isn't that enticing as of yet. Going to depend on the rewards and if there's some actual story or interesting mechanics tied to it. If the farm is just housing gardens but bigger, the ranching isn't any different, and there's nothing more to it than that and free-range minions, a pretty meh feature. If it has the same level of story and build-up as, say, doman enclave though, that will be pretty great. If they've actually fleshed the mechanics out beyond current gardening, that could be cool too.
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  8. #58
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    Wubrant Drakesbane
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renik View Post
    From the ffxiv subreddit discord:

    oroginal: http://ff14net.2chblog.jp/archives/57680177.html

    credit to iluna minori who posted it in discord.



    ■無人島開拓について
    Regarding Island Sanctuary

    ・今回は“スローライフ”がコンセプトなので他人と競い合うみたいなことは極力なくすようにしている
    The concept behind the content is to provide players with a more "slow life" (relaxing) feel so they are making sure any elements of competing with other players is avoided

    ・他人との交流はゼロではないが、基本は1人でやっていくコンテンツ
    You will still retain some form of communication with other players, but the content itself is largely solo

    ・貿易も自分が開拓した無人島の中で、特産物を植えたり育てたものをゲーム内のシステム内の流注と対話をしてギルを稼いでいく遊び
    Trading within Island Sanctuary and earning gil can be done by planting and growing specialities that you have cultivated, as well as interacting with the features in this game.

    ・貿易は興味がないから育てるだけで楽しいという遊び方でも損はしない作り
    They will make it so that even if you're not interested in trading but only want to do it just to grow crops, or specialities can also do so without facing through any loss/penalties.

    ・お気に入りのミニオンをめでたり連れてきた動物を育てるだけでもいい
    You are free to admire the minions you love and brought into, or just have fun growing animals you brought into Island Sanctuary.

    Looking forward to everything you put here!


    I would say it'd be a shame if others couldn't visit your sanctuary though, hopefully that'll be a feature. I probably wouldn't use it that much but I know that others would see this system in much better light if it could do that.


    I'm personally okay if there is a housing like 'ambience' and toolkit (gardening, etc) but doesn't come with the high customization with the assumption that they just will never be able to actually get housing instanced lol. I was actually of the mind they could do this garrison like content for airships and that it would fit perfectly into the game (with housing system we have currently). Who knows maybe airships can park in your sanctuary off into the future... :3.



    Might be neat idea if they bind your apartment room, even if optionally, to the content space though. So you've got this WoW garrison like exterior with a bit more of a personal touch interior, optionally- perhaps like a flower girl door interaction like in FFXI's mog rooms (for those who want to continue that super casual experience into their interior as well).


    While it would be cool that everyone gets a full blown power instanced area (would absolutely not say no to that), I would caution people to think it'll have much customization and just be an interactive peaceful place to hang out for a bit. For some that'll be great, for others it'll not be their cup of tea.



    If it is like WoW garrisons there will be /some/ customization though, just not a lot. Maybe it'll be way better, just warning people on that it might feel very homely, be a suitable home environment for some players, and have a lot of little things to do but don't be prepared for ESO or Wildstar level housing - at least from what I'm reading.


    I really hope they dig into the feature though, to make it very as homely (cozy, peaceful, relaxing, etc) and content worthy as possible. Not just be "16 x 16 gardens and some extra minions" with nothing else.
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  9. #59
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    Jojoya Joya
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hycinthus View Post
    Did it say anything whether friends can visit?
    Nothing specific was said, just the mention that it is "largely solo content". That sounds like there's a little room for player interaction of some sort. Otherwise they could have just left the mention as "solo content".

    At this point, it's probably better to wait for the digitial FanFest when they'll no doubt have more specific information to share about the content and how it works.
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  10. #60
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    Arctura Fengari
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    Balmung
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    Dancer Lv 90
    My hopes for Island Sanctuary:


    - We can farm as much as we want without needing a plot of land.

    - Invite NPCS to live there.

    - Instanced housing on the island.

    - The ability to choose what kind of structures exist on the island, and how they look.

    - Cute Story of Seasons/Rune Factory/Stardew vibes. Though absolutely has to be casual. I don't have the time to manage a farm every day in real time.

    (Harvest Moon does not exist in the name anymore. Natsume stole the rights to the game series name/logo, and makes cheap/homophobic inferior games under the logo and name. All Harvest Moon games developed by Xseed past and present are now Story of Seasons forever. Example: Harvest Moon: FOMT became Story of Seasons: Friends of Mineral Town in the remake. Just thought I'd share. I keep hearing people call it Harvest Moon when that name is now changed.)

    - Animal raising would be nice.

    - Fishing spots.

    - The ability to bring friends to my own island.

    :3
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    Last edited by DamianFatale; 02-08-2021 at 04:40 PM.

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