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    Quote Originally Posted by althenawhm View Post
    I didnt see any evidence of any combos or any fun dps options in that trailer.
    Umm... it's just a 50 second trailer. Showing only one healer. And only three abilities! I know people are on guard after SE did what they did this expansion, and believe me, I'll be more than happy to criticize them with the rest of you all if they make the same mistake. But for the love of God, please be patient. We'll get more info as time goes on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by currentlemon View Post
    Umm... it's just a 50 second trailer. Showing only one healer. And only three abilities! I know people are on guard after SE did what they did this expansion, and believe me, I'll be more than happy to criticize them with the rest of you all if they make the same mistake. But for the love of God, please be patient. We'll get more info as time goes on.
    On the one hand I get what you're saying.

    On the other hand, they've already proven that they don't understand healing in general.. you add the fact that they are re-working astro again to make this other healer "work" and now adjusting queues (which will make some queues suck in my opinion) just for so that this new concept could work... well you can understand how people are already up in arms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiccan026 View Post
    On the one hand I get what you're saying.

    On the other hand, they've already proven that they don't understand healing in general.. you add the fact that they are re-working astro again to make this other healer "work" and now adjusting queues (which will make some queues suck in my opinion) just for so that this new concept could work... well you can understand how people are already up in arms.
    Let's not forget that they're sticking to the "pure healer" semantics. lol. That doesn't say much but it's all adding up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EaMett View Post
    Let's not forget that they're sticking to the "pure healer" semantics. lol. That doesn't say much but it's all adding up.
    I’m fairly certain it’s been said before that “pure healer” is just the terminology they use for “regen healer”. Not “pure healer” in the sense of “no damage-healing only” healer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    I’m fairly certain it’s been said before that “pure healer” is just the terminology they use for “regen healer”. Not “pure healer” in the sense of “no damage-healing only” healer.
    This.

    People get worked up about the choice of term "pure healer" thinking the thing implied as therefore "not pure" is DPS. But the context of the two types being pure healer and barrier healer clearly indicates that barriers are the thing that makes them not pure healers because they're not just restoring damage that has already been done.
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    People speculated/wished for Chemist, Geomancer and even Necromancer, when all along the correct answer was Murakumo Unit.

    The signs were all there. /s
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    This.

    People get worked up about the choice of term "pure healer" thinking the thing implied as therefore "not pure" is DPS. But the context of the two types being pure healer and barrier healer clearly indicates that barriers are the thing that makes them not pure healers because they're not just restoring damage that has already been done.
    I've literally been saying this for years now. Not in those exact words, but since the term "pure healer" was being thrown around back before we even had Stormblood, I've been saying that it has been taken completely out of context. Even a "regen healer" isn't necessarily accurate as SCH also has moderate HoT ability. However, with the addition of Sage and pure (regen) healer officially being a thing now, this might go away in 6.0.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    I've literally been saying this for years now. Not in those exact words, but since the term "pure healer" was being thrown around back before we even had Stormblood, I've been saying that it has been taken completely out of context. Even a "regen healer" isn't necessarily accurate as SCH also has moderate HoT ability. However, with the addition of Sage and pure (regen) healer officially being a thing now, this might go away in 6.0.
    I think the mentions within this thread have more to do with the fact that the "pure healer" is a bit nonsensical when all healers have sufficient HPS. I doubt they would change this in 6.0 given how they've changed healer skills no longer than a few weeks ago.
    The entire pure healer vs shield healer concept is broken. You barely need shields to start with.
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    Last edited by EaMett; 02-06-2021 at 03:16 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    I’m fairly certain it’s been said before that “pure healer” is just the terminology they use for “regen healer”. Not “pure healer” in the sense of “no damage-healing only” healer.
    I view it more as Barrier = Proactive and Pure = Reactive when it comes to healing. Proactive sets things up before damage (barriers, buffs, heal-bombs), Reactive heals the damage afterwards (burst heals and regens).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiccan026 View Post
    On the one hand I get what you're saying.

    On the other hand, they've already proven that they don't understand healing in general.. you add the fact that they are re-working astro again to make this other healer "work" and now adjusting queues (which will make some queues suck in my opinion) just for so that this new concept could work... well you can understand how people are already up in arms.
    Hey, I'm on edge as well. I get why healer mains are anxious. If SE fails to learn anything from their past mistake with healers and tanks, I might just stick to DPS jobs. But I'll give Yoshi-P and the battle devs a chance. Even though the bar isn't high.
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