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  1. #21
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    I shouldn't be asking, because it's really none of my business, but I'm curious.

    What is your problem with frontlines besides RNG?
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  2. #22
    Player TurtlesAWD's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mistress_Irika View Post
    I shouldn't be asking, because it's really none of my business, but I'm curious.

    What is your problem with frontlines besides RNG?
    I mean in large part it's basically that.
    - The game lures you in with desirable items that can actually be obtained via game understanding or effort
    - once invested, the player is introduced to an item to be desired that can't be obtained via game understanding or effort, but fundamentally revolves around RNG.
    - because desire is the root of suffering, the player now suffers pointlessly in ways they didn't need to.

    Partial credit towards the achievement for second place and this is less of a problem (though, to reiterate, still fundamentally RNG)
    Achievements based on personal performance rather than uncontrollable game outcome and this is less of a problem (though it's obviously easier to perform better with a team that can support it - so, certainly still a degree of RNG)
    Make the achievements number of games played and simply extend them out for a greater number and this is less of a problem.

    People may argue against that last one saying the mounts are "for skill" or whatever but that's not a failure to understand this solution that's a failure to understand that winning and losing is fundamentally random - people who want the mounts to represent "skill" shouldn't want it to require wins, they should want it to require personal performance. Requiring wins is more about the assigned team which is, again, entirely random.
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  3. #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by TurtlesAWD View Post
    Imagine having so little self respect you put yourself through this weekly.
    Nope. These ones:

    https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...cgroup=Crystal

    https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...tline/monthly/https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...tline/monthly/

    I mean, if you want to play your hand at a casino, by all means. But your odds of winning are far less than Frontlines' average of 33.33%. XD

    Also, Frontlines is so refreshing to me. ^_^
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  4. #24
    Player TurtlesAWD's Avatar
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    I didn't click those links but I assure you that they are in fact the same as the link I posted.
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  5. #25
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    seal rocks fun
    all should be reworked into 2 team games though
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  6. #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by TurtlesAWD View Post
    I didn't click those links but I assure you that they are in fact the same as the link I posted.
    Fine with that. And no, they do not link to Valley View Casino in SD. They link to an official list of players with high win rates in Frontlines. XD

    Answer is simple, being good at PvP does matter. And the devs won't change that.
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    Last edited by Astrophysx; 02-06-2021 at 07:55 AM.

  7. #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duskane View Post
    seal rocks fun
    all should be reworked into 2 team games though
    I agree Dusk. ^_^
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  8. #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by Astrophysx View Post
    Nope. These ones:

    https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...cgroup=Crystal

    https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...tline/monthly/https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...tline/monthly/

    I mean, if you want to play your hand at a casino, by all means. But your odds of winning are far less than Frontlines' average of 33.33%. XD

    Also, Frontlines is so refreshing to me. ^_^
    Don't bother.
    The moment he throws out "Casino" and "Hot Streak" you should already realize his academic level is not sustain enough for him to understand the fact that it is also under Probability.
    "Hot Streak"? Lmao, do you know how many people lost their wealth (even life) because they believed in that foolish idea.
    There is no point to communicate with him as most of us are playing Frontline for fun but he is playing for the mount.
    Just looks the quality of content in his post compares a guy before him is posting because he is really want to improve.
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  9. #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by Divinemights View Post
    Don't bother.
    The moment he throws out "Casino" and "Hot Streak" you should already realize his academic level is not sustain enough for him to understand the fact that it is also under Probability.
    "Hot Streak"? Lmao, do you know how many people lost their wealth (even life) because they believed in that foolish idea.
    There is no point to communicate with him as most of us are playing Frontline for fun but he is playing for the mount.
    Just looks the quality of content in his post compares a guy before him is posting because he is really want to improve.
    The only reason I respond to him is because he's making a suggestion (to the devs) to make the rewards easier to obtain... when players like you and me can get an ADS mount easily in less than 2 weeks time (premade) and within a month (solo).

    PvP rewards should be EARNED, instead of asking the devs to make it easier to obtain. It's a grindy process, but when I got my mounts and wore the hard earned Frontlines armor set (Field Commander), it was a really good experience for me. ^_^ "Hand of Mercy" title felt great too. So my counter suggestion is to keep it as it is... 33.33% except for those that take the time and energy to learn how to PvP.
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    Last edited by Astrophysx; 02-06-2021 at 04:38 PM.

  10. #30
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    I love PVP , i am not good at i , but I do really like it.
    Funny how that works.

    I am at 28.7% wins
    32.4% 2nd
    37.7% 3rd
    out of 977 matches

    Oh , and I miss the old PVP when it first came out , when gear mattered and your skills mirrored your PVE skills.

    So , NO , please keep my frontlines.
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