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    As I stated in different Bozja or Relic posts, I'm very disappointed & upset with SE for giving those of us option to upgrade our relic weapon without doing Bozja. I got to level 8 in Bozja when it first came out, wasnt invested in it, & stop going in it. I leveled up 3 relics via the HW fates.

    Now we have to go through Bozja, complete Castrum & DR to get to the next step. That's BS. I dont want to do either fights but its seems like I'm forced to if I want do the next relic steps. Whatever happened to options SE!! Doing all of that to get an i515 weapon. I wouldnt mind the alliance raids because everyone would be doing it & the que times would be fast.

    Now I doubt if do the relic any more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nighthawky2010 View Post
    As I stated in different Bozja or Relic posts, I'm very disappointed & upset with SE for giving those of us option to upgrade our relic weapon without doing Bozja. I got to level 8 in Bozja when it first came out, wasnt invested in it, & stop going in it. I leveled up 3 relics via the HW fates.

    Now we have to go through Bozja, complete Castrum & DR to get to the next step. That's BS. I dont want to do either fights but its seems like I'm forced to if I want do the next relic steps. Whatever happened to options SE!! Doing all of that to get an i515 weapon. I wouldnt mind the alliance raids because everyone would be doing it & the que times would be fast.

    Now I doubt if do the relic any more.
    I think them making a distinction in the way they have between Bozja and the relic is a good decision really, as it is a perfect test to see how content like Bozja holds up independent of the relic. Locking the relic behind Bozja will really skew it. Since the incentive will be to do Bozja FOR the relic and not for other reasons. So I think it's a good chance for them to see if Bozja-esque content is worth developing going forward into future expansions. Otherwise, I daresay they'll play around until they find something that works.

    One of the biggest criticisms of Eureka was you HAD to do it if you wanted the relic, and that it was the ONLY choice. This criticism was obviously addressed, perhaps too much.

    The issue with CLL at the moment is just the overall incentive behind it. If it had the incentive or a sufficient number of people doing it then I'd argue that it wouldn't be an issue. That being said I'm surprised they didn't make the final step of the relic be CLL, PotD, and Delubrum.
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    Last edited by Kaurhz; 02-07-2021 at 12:30 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurhz View Post
    I think them making a distinction in the way they have between Bozja and the relic is a good decision really, as it is a perfect test to see how content like Bozja holds up independent of the relic. Locking the relic behind Bozja will really skew it. Since the incentive will be to do Bozja FOR the relic and not for other reasons. So I think it's a good chance for them to see if Bozja-esque content is worth developing going forward into future expansions. Otherwise, I daresay they'll play around until they find something that works.
    It actually wasn't a good thing and would make for a horrible dataset. Farming the drops outside of Bozja could get you all 60 easily in an evening of farming with the remaining 6 done in an hour or so, while in Bozja, even at rank 15, it would take days to get the same amount of drops. Now if they dropped at the same rate it would be a fair comparison, but since they drop at alarmingly different rates, with Bozja being an immensely extensive grind by comparison, any comparison would be so flawed it would be worthless.

    I think Bozja would have seen a lot more completion if they would have just made the drop rate the same both inside and outside, for all the various memories. Then they could use that data for future content.
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