relic grind i wished would of happen

[Absurdity]

This whole relic grind is just a ploy to get new players to feel like the old areas are still populated and the 24 man raids are heavy populated. Something needs to change.

Very simple to fix this.

Just refuse to do it!

As long as you continue to do whatever SE wants you're not gonna see any improvements, they'll look at the number of participations and conclude that it was totally a success.

[Vahlnir]

Relics purpose seems to be misunderstood. A lot of people are referring to it as a casual thing but I don’t think they ever have been. They’ve been accessible to all which is different from being casual. I don’t remember any end of expansion where literally everyone is running around with them. A few things caused this I think.

They have always been a casual weapon. Obtaining one and upgrading it has never been difficult or challenging. Tedious, sure. Atma was tedious, ridiculously so, but spamming fates wasn't hard. Having the patience was the hardest part. The only time I can remember it actually being a challenge was back in ARR when Titan HM was the gatekeeper to a finished relic. It took me a month to actually get a clear. That is not an exaggeration. Titan HM back then was quite a step up in difficulty so a lot of people couldn't handle it. Even then the hardest part was trying to get 7 other people to be on the same page.

Also, there were plenty of people at the end of ARR with a finished relic. Same with HW. And...same with Stormblood. It will be the case with Shadowbringers as well. Not everyone has completed one and some never will, but they aren't rare even when they are current content. Not by a long shot. Relics are less of a test of skill and more of a test of patience. It just requires a certain mindset, which is what a lot of the MMO crowd has because that is how they've been conditioned. And it is also why some can't help but laugh when some say certain steps are difficult.

[van_arn]

Very simple to fix this.

Just refuse to do it!

As long as you continue to do whatever SE wants you're not gonna see any improvements, they'll look at the number of participations and conclude that it was totally a success.

There’s a sucker born every minute, though.

[Vahlnir]

There’s a sucker born every minute, though.

Honestly, part of my problem is that I have waited for years to have a gunblade job, so I wasn't about to miss out on the dyeable AF or the relic weapon, as much as I may dislike the methods for obtaining them. Sure, I could not do things, but with GNB being my dream job I feel obligated to get everything my casual self can get.

[van_arn]

Honestly, part of my problem is that I have waited for years to have a gunblade job, so I wasn't about to miss out on the dyeable AF or the relic weapon, as much as I may dislike the methods for obtaining them. Sure, I could not do things, but with GNB being my dream job I feel obligated to get everything my casual self can get.

They have you exactly where they want you, then.

[Vahlnir]

They have you exactly where they want you, then.

It is what it is.