Square-Enix: You BROKE your PROMISE on the Bozjan Weapons

[Arkhon-Infaustus]

but then in Stormblood I just saw it as them getting lazy

That's the exact feeling I have about several things in FFXIV since SB. This and no risks taken.
I seriously hope 6.0 will bring something fresh...

[TaleraRistain]

Yep, I'm angry. People who hated that relics were tied to Eureka made it clear they wanted a weapon questline disconnected from any specific instanced zone. So here they "listen" to that feedback, and then issue an epic troll where they say "But you can get the pieces outside!" which is a completely tone-deaf and obtuse response to the complaints.

I do hope they do look at the numbers of people who fell off on their resistance weapons starting with this piece and pay attention this time. I think unfortunately because people forced themselves to do Eureka, they had high numbers on relic weapons to point to and say "See! See! People want to go here!". But their design seems like it's going to badly work against them here, since completion depends on group zones that require the instances to stay populated. That doesn't seem to be as much the case with Bozja.

Bottom line is, some dev has a hard-on for EQ/FFXI era games and they refuse to let this zone stand on its own two feet. Things like epic weapons were the exclusive territory in those games of group and raid content. They would rather arrogantly decide that they can force players into content they don't enjoy than give them options.

I'll probably stay for the MSQ. But they're giving casual players less and less reasons to stay subbed between MSQ patches.

[iVolke]

Square never gave that impression. You gave yourself that impression.

We have to do Bozja to get rewards from Bozja? Outrageous!

[Roaming]

What i hate is that I can either farm Syrcus Tower every 20 min for a guaranteed memory drop or waste an hour inside the actual content and do 4 CE's and not get a single memory drop. drop rate's should be the other way around. should be 100% drop in the actual content and random outside.

[Grimr]

tech you can do the 24 man but you have to complete the one quest going into castrum and the new one is just as bad expecting perfect runs just isn't feasible. They haven't nerfed eureka yet and by now they normally would have in 5.3 and this one is well on track to mirror eureka cept eureka was way better than this ever will be even pagos and the next time you make a fire lvl complete the entire area with fire not half ice half fire.

Oh and i would of skipped the sycrusa tover part I've done enough of those to last a life time maybe ill spam world of darkness but I'd rather do 60+ instances. lvl 50 rotations are terrible.

[Jennah]

Basically, Square and Enix both (separately) built up what I had assumed would be a lifetime of good will from me between 1986 and 1996. They are the reason I like computers, and gaming. And still play indie games in the style of FF1-6 and DQ1-6 all the time.

I still find myself angry beyond words at this utter betrayal. This is worse than FF13, or 1.0.
I'd have been severely disappointed if they had *told* us they were going to make us run Bozja ahead of time.
But they did not. In fact, many interviews said the exact opposite, or at least allowed the opposite assumption to be widely made in NA circles, what with not having Bozja be a requirement for multiple patches.
I am still beyond angry, even days later.

And I don't want to hear it from anyone about "Oh, Bozja is not really all that bad"
First - if that's the best praise you can come up with, it's extremely telling about the whole Eurekan archetype.
Second - if you actually claim to LIKE Bozja, I am going to personally assume you are either a troll, or that your mind works so differently from mine that we cannot mutually comprehend each other. Poe's Law and all. Sorry, I don't mean to insult you, but that's the reality.
Third - that's not the point. It is the *PRINCIPLE* of the thing. If people complain about Eureka; if people *refuse to do Eureka*, in the future there may be less Eureka. That is far more important than any iLvl increase.

Frankly, I'm angry enough that it's affected my health I'm finding myself feeling like I'm forced to log on [and I am; parties for BLU spells will be deader-than-Castrum even faster.]
And having to log off after about 2 hours to cool down.
I was super excited to see what the whole announcement showcase was about; now I cannot even convince myself to care. If nothing else, this betrayal was *awful* timing on SE's part.

[AC9Breaker]

Basically, Square and Enix both (separately) built up what I had assumed would be a lifetime of good will from me between 1986 and 1996. They are the reason I like computers, and gaming. And still play indie games in the style of FF1-6 and DQ1-6 all the time.

I still find myself angry beyond words at this utter betrayal. This is worse than FF13, or 1.0.
I'd have been severely disappointed if they had *told* us they were going to make us run Bozja ahead of time.
But they did not. In fact, many interviews said the exact opposite, or at least allowed the opposite assumption to be widely made in NA circles, what with not having Bozja be a requirement for multiple patches.
I am still beyond angry, even days later.

And I don't want to hear it from anyone about "Oh, Bozja is not really all that bad"
First - if that's the best praise you can come up with, it's extremely telling about the whole Eurekan archetype.
Second - if you actually claim to LIKE Bozja, I am going to personally assume you are either a troll, or that your mind works so differently from mine that we cannot mutually comprehend each other. Poe's Law and all. Sorry, I don't mean to insult you, but that's the reality.
Third - that's not the point. It is the *PRINCIPLE* of the thing. If people complain about Eureka; if people *refuse to do Eureka*, in the future there may be less Eureka. That is far more important than any iLvl increase.

Frankly, I'm angry enough that it's affected my health I'm finding myself feeling like I'm forced to log on [and I am; parties for BLU spells will be deader-than-Castrum even faster.]
And having to log off after about 2 hours to cool down.
I was super excited to see what the whole announcement showcase was about; now I cannot even convince myself to care. If nothing else, this betrayal was *awful* timing on SE's part.

lol wow dood. You should put the game downs for a bit.

[Payadopa]

I still find myself angry beyond words at this utter betrayal. This is worse than FF13, or 1.0.

I stopped reading there. lol

Maybe you should take a break. I'm not trying to be mean or anything. I'm a passionate person, too, and even I think you're a biiiiit overreacting here.

[TaleraRistain]

I'd have been severely disappointed if they had *told* us they were going to make us run Bozja ahead of time.
But they did not. In fact, many interviews said the exact opposite, or at least allowed the opposite assumption to be widely made in NA circles, what with not having Bozja be a requirement for multiple patches.

I do think they greatly failed their English audience. A few days before patch, I looked around to see if we had any definitive official statement in English on the topic and there wasn't anything. They make us rely on unofficial translations of their interviews and Live Letters. And so you have five or six different interpretations and translations of the same thing.

I think it's interesting they're making a point to do this showcase with an English translation as it's happening, rather than just some translated slides. Maybe they are finally realizing how much they drop the ball with us and how we often get left in the dark.

[ForteNightshade]

I still find myself angry beyond words at this utter betrayal. This is worse than FF13, or 1.0.

We've reached critical mass. 1.0 nearly bankrupted the entire company alongside the myriad of other poor decisions. So I think it may be a just a tad more serious than you being "forced" into Bozja. Just a tad though /s