People who like Bozja/Eureka, I would like your input

[Vickii]

except like many others, I don't like Bozja style content and would rather go back to the ARR/HW ways of getting them. Pretty much what the entire post is about is trying to get a middle ground. And as others, in other threads, have pointed out, it's a bit odd to suddenly require it after 3 steps of not needing bozja. So sure, can call it crying, but I'm actually trying to find something constructive for people who do enjoy Bozja so I can go back to enjoying my ARR/HW relic grind

But you don’t need this relic that’s my point. It’s an optional weapon that’s on par with a savage raid weapon and only a little bit better than a tomestone weapon.

If you don’t want to do the content that it requires then just don’t do it.

The problem with the relic is they made the beginning steps far too easy and let a lot of people start it who now are upset. But if you can’t spend 10 hours or so to complete the main Bozja quest then relic grinds maybe aren’t for you. They aren’t asking you to even get the memories in there, simply they want you to complete one quest line and do two dungeons one time.

[Jade3173]

But you don’t need this relic that’s my point. It’s an optional weapon that’s on par with a savage raid weapon and only a little bit better than a tomestone weapon.

If you don’t want to do the content that it requires then just don’t do it.

The problem with the relic is they made the beginning steps far too easy and let a lot of people start it who now are upset. But if you can’t spend 10 hours or so to complete the main Bozja quest then relic grinds maybe aren’t for you. They aren’t asking you to even get the memories in there, simply they want you to complete one quest line and do two dungeons one time.

except they were, that's why I had 4 luxs by the time HW ended and went back in SB to get BRD's. I also honestly have no problem with what they're asking for the steps. Would probably cut down to DNC and SCH or GNB rather than the 6 or 7 I currently have sitting at the i500 step. If Square turned around tomorrow and removed the need to do Bozja's story, I'd be all over getting my DNC's relic.

But you seem to be on the warpath saying everyone is crying if they don't like bozja. Funny, it's a forum, people are offering their feedback that the sudden requirement of it, and thus trying to get in for Castrum, is bad design since if you're not in the initial wave, you're going to be hard pressed to get it done

[ForteNightshade]

But you don’t need this relic that’s my point. It’s an optional weapon that’s on par with a savage raid weapon and only a little bit better than a tomestone weapon.

If you don’t want to do the content that it requires then just don’t do it.

The problem with the relic is they made the beginning steps far too easy and let a lot of people start it who now are upset. But if you can’t spend 10 hours or so to complete the main Bozja quest then relic grinds maybe aren’t for you. They aren’t asking you to even get the memories in there, simply they want you to complete one quest line and do two dungeons one time.

To be fair, this logic applies to literally the entire game. You don't "need" anything. That does not absolve it from criticism. The entire purpose of having alternative method this expansion was to address complains people had going from the ARR/HW grind to Eureka. Therefore, arbitrarily forcing people into Bozja if they want to continue their relic progression defeats the point of their being a second method. Adding insult to injury, this current step forces people who actually like Bozja out of it and into old content they likely don't want to run. Somehow, the dev team failed at both address the actual complaint people add and didn't satisfy either demographic. It's outright baffling how spectacularly this missed the mark.

Also those ARR/HW relics would have made you cry if you did them when they were current.

This new relic is the easiest relic grind we have ever had by far. Comparing it to years old heavily nerfed content and expecting that same level of ease is just not what relics are about.

You’ll get a chance to get it easily later on.

As someone who did the HW relic prior to any nerfs. No, it isn't. This is easily the most tedious simply because we have so few options. Yes, if you spammed ARF for ten hours, you might drive yourself mad despite its efficiency. However, you could do other things. Conversely, you could simply take your time. Neither of this is feasible with the Resistance Weapons. You're forced to do Alliance raids or pray to the RNG gods. And should you wait, you'll likely get walled by both Castrum and DR seeing less activity due to their paltry rewards. It's horribly shortsighted design.

That being said, Atmas were worse. However, they have been rightly criticised as one of the dumbest RNG grinds this game ever attempted. Since the devs never went back to drop rates that low again. At least they learned?