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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kanitezz View Post
    I've grinded multiple different ARR and HW relics so my question to you is... Haven't relics ALWAYS been monotonous?
    Bad design is bad design and it should be called out and respectfully criticized.

    Most people want a nice middle ground between "Pay 1000 poetics for your first step" and "Korean Grind or RNG hellfest" for the current one.
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    Player Reap00's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    Bad design is bad design and it should be called out and respectfully criticized.

    Most people want a nice middle ground between "Pay 1000 poetics for your first step" and "Korean Grind or RNG hellfest" for the current one.
    There is nothing wrong with the design. The step is designed to fill the alliance raids with players to keep those queues pumping. You get a BiS weapon for your job at the end of the expansion. Seems fair. Also, this is entirely optional. If you don't like it you don't have to do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reap00 View Post
    If you don't like it you don't have to do it.
    And people aren't which is why Castrum has been empty for a month+
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

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    Player Reap00's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    And people aren't which is why Castrum has been empty for a month+
    Castrum is running on all cylinders now that people have to do it to get to the next step for the relic. What happened previously doesn't matter at this point.
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    Okami Amaterasuu
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reap00 View Post
    Castrum is running on all cylinders now that people have to do it to get to the next step for the relic. What happened previously doesn't matter at this point.
    For the next month or two sure, but once the initial rush is over it'll be back to being dead since most people who want the relic won't have it held hostage by needing to clear the raids.

    The fact that Bozja is dead between patches speaks volumes about the quality of the content they've churned out, and the fact that it's being forced on us now without making improvements to the content itself speaks volumes about their ability to listen to their player base.
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    Thalia Beckford
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dogempire View Post
    For the next month or two sure, but once the initial rush is over it'll be back to being dead since most people who want the relic won't have it held hostage by needing to clear the raids.

    The fact that Bozja is dead between patches speaks volumes about the quality of the content they've churned out, and the fact that it's being forced on us now without making improvements to the content itself speaks volumes about their ability to listen to their player base.
    Exactly. Without the resistance weapon, it died off quickly. Instead of making it appealing to the people who enjoy that content by addressing their concerns, they just shovel other players into it to make it live again for a bit. And then will make zero improvements once it dies again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reap00 View Post
    Castrum is running on all cylinders now that people have to do it to get to the next step for the relic. What happened previously doesn't matter at this point.
    Exactly, who needs to worry about fun? We'll think about that when the problems come even though they were obvious from the get-go.
    Seriously, people were farming Eureka a week ago because they would rather get whatever rewards you got from there instead while several threads+vids of how dead Bozja was were being posted. Even though Bozja is supposed to be this expansion's version of Eureka+Deep Dungeon, which has always been really populated content for people levelling alts.

    I understand MMOs need to get grindy sometimes, but fun is also important in a game. Actually, it is the main purpose of a game and you can't simply ignore it because "Relics are always grindy and this time you have to run Raids 30 times" Can you had a little fun or variety there, please? Thanks.
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    Kurenai Tenshi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reap00 View Post
    Castrum is running on all cylinders now that people have to do it to get to the next step for the relic. What happened previously doesn't matter at this point.
    This is a straight up lie. I've been in Bozja and on several occasions less than 20 people bother with it. While Castrum may have an upswing in activity at certain times, that's a far cry from "running on all cylinders." Of course, you always think this is game is literally perfect in every way. So I'm not surprised.
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    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Hayk Farsight
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reap00 View Post
    There is nothing wrong with the design. The step is designed to fill the alliance raids with players to keep those queues pumping. You get a BiS weapon for your job at the end of the expansion. Seems fair. Also, this is entirely optional. If you don't like it you don't have to do it.
    They didn't need CT in there, that part could have been removed completely. We already get CT almost every blasted AR Roulette, we didn't need more of that location!
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    Qynden Peltier
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    They didn't need CT in there, that part could have been removed completely. We already get CT almost every blasted AR Roulette, we didn't need more of that location!
    Well, if SE wasn't so cheap with the devs for this game and paid them more they could have converted the Crystal Tower raids into a solo duty and avoid that issue entirely since Crystal Tower is now required to progress the MSQ, but gotta save as much money as possible.
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