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  1. #21
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    Iscah's Avatar
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Bismarck
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    Summoner Lv 90
    The other option is to not rush the weapon, just have the quest active and collect tokens when alliance roulette throws you into CT - which is most of the time.
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  2. #22
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    Vickii's Avatar
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    Elise Marie
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    Cerberus
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by DynnDiablos View Post
    I am good. I don't need the relic. There is higher ilvl weapons with better stats than that thing.
    Right now. Another stage yet. It’s probably going to end up being the BIS or at least the best weapon that can be obtained by most players.
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  3. #23
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    xbahax92's Avatar
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    Flan Vongola
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    Raiden
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    Warrior Lv 90
    I understand if content is meant to be lasting. I actually support this, since many previous steps can be done... rather fast and without hassle.
    But this content isnt FAIR and nor really REWARDING. Critical Engagements are already "rare" and dont pop every so often. I dont see why the droprate cannot be 100% like a 20min CT2 run.
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  4. #24
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    Okami Amaterasuu
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    Faerie
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Lol, this is what happens when people complain about not wanting the relic to be tied to its own content and needing to be "casual friendly".
    Still a walk in the park compared to the pre-nerf HW relics, or heck the ARR relics though I was never around for their release.

    Besides, the relics are still tied to their own content since you have to do Bozja and Castrum and the new 24 man raid to get to the point where you can grind the alliance raids, so your point is moot.

    I'd rather chalk it up to devs not knowing what they're doing and making both sides unhappy
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  5. #25
    Player BristolRuss's Avatar
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    J'azih Dahj
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    Moogle
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    It is tied to Bozja though as you can't start the new relic quest unless you've completed the previous Bozja quests which means getting to level 10 in there and doing the Castrum.
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  6. #26
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    SturmChurro's Avatar
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    Sturm Churro
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    Marilith
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by BristolRuss View Post
    It is tied to Bozja though as you can't start the new relic quest unless you've completed the previous Bozja quests which means getting to level 10 in there and doing the Castrum.
    Castrum AND the new one actually. I don't think the new one is very new player friendly either, but I think people will be running this one for a decent while yet.
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  7. #27
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    Valkyrie_Lenneth's Avatar
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    Lynne Asteria
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    Jenova
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Dogempire View Post
    Still a walk in the park compared to the pre-nerf HW relics, or heck the ARR relics though I was never around for their release.

    Besides, the relics are still tied to their own content since you have to do Bozja and Castrum and the new 24 man raid to get to the point where you can grind the alliance raids, so your point is moot.

    I'd rather chalk it up to devs not knowing what they're doing and making both sides unhappy
    I did 3 ARR relics pre nerf, like 4 or 5 heavensward ones pre nerf. Trust me, these see the easiest relics have ever been.


    People just want to be able to do nothing and get good gear
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  8. #28
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    Tiana Vestoria
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    Odin
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by BristolRuss View Post
    It is tied to Bozja though as you can't start the new relic quest unless you've completed the previous Bozja quests which means getting to level 10 in there and doing the Castrum.
    Which is what I really don't get. Why even give people an alternative way to farm their relics outside Bozja when you're forcing them to basically complete the thing anyway? Might as well scrap the CT grind and increase the drop chance inside Eureka 2.0
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  9. #29
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    Kurenai Tenshi
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    Cactuar
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Lol, this is what happens when people complain about not wanting the relic to be tied to its own content and needing to be "casual friendly".
    How about the dev team actually be inventive and not fall back on extremely lazy alternatives? People are allowed to criticise Eureka while equally wanting something better than "spam Crystal Tower a bazillion times." Hell, why not Ivalice and Mhachi raids if their only alternative is spamming old content? There's absolutely no reason incentivize Crystal Tower more than it already is.
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    "Stand in the ashes of a trillion dead souls and ask the ghosts if honor matters."
    "The silence is your answer."


  10. #30
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    Elise Marie
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    Cerberus
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Absurdity View Post
    Which is what I really don't get. Why even give people an alternative way to farm their relics outside Bozja when you're forcing them to basically complete the thing anyway? Might as well scrap the CT grind and increase the drop chance inside Eureka 2.0
    Probably because people cried about Eureka and to this day it’s the lowest completed relic.
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