I appear to have already missed the boat on bozja

[Yencat]

I suggest everyone complain on the Exploratory Missions forum as well about SE breaking their promise that we wouldn't have to grind Bozja itself for the relics.
I have a vague feeling they read that one more than General, even though General has 10,000x the activity in NA.

They said this would be the case back in the Live Letter in May.

Weapons can be upgraded through two methods.
One involves upgrading them as you progress through the Bozjan Southern Front, while the other involves upgrading weapons through different means. Whichever method you choose, you’ll be required to progress the Save the Queen storyline.

I haven't done Castrum yet either because I didn't rush it when it came out so I'm not exactly thrilled either, but they didn't lie.

Source: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...805-01-2020%29

[swiss_Momo]

The point is that one of the big complaints about Eureka was being forced to do it to get the relic weapon.
SE now going "don't worry, you have another option on how to get your relic this time!" only to put "but you're still forced to do Bozja eventually, tehe" in the fine print is deliberately misleading, and honstly just as bad as flat out lying.

[Yencat]

The point is that one of the big complaints about Eureka was being forced to do it to get the relic weapon.
SE now going "don't worry, you have another option on how to get your relic this time!" only to put "but you're still forced to do Bozja eventually, tehe" in the fine print is deliberately misleading, and honstly just as bad as flat out lying.

Castrum participation will probably drop off a cliff again once the next batch of people get through it so it'll still be a massive roadblock to finishing your relic, I don't like Bozja at all and I'm not looking forward to doing Castrum either.

But they didn't break any promises and it wasn't exactly in fine print, it's been right there all along. I think most people just ignored that bit.

[OrpheusKappa]

You aslo have to do the new 24 man too, this is the quest that is required for the next relic step.

[Yencat]

You aslo have to do the new 24 man too, this is the quest that is required for the next relic step.

Oh, great...

[SturmChurro]

The new raid is pretty fantastic. Great raid design, great time playing! Unfortunately, the next relic grind is horrific. Either, apparently, 15 crystal tower raids (LoTA..), or CEs, for the new memories. However, CEs only offer a CHANCE of dropping 1 of the 15 memories you need. I did 3 CEs over a period of 45 minutes and got 1 memory!

[Infindox]

You aslo have to do the new 24 man too, this is the quest that is required for the next relic step.

Well see for DR, I dont mind it. You will always have the correct amount of people. Only thing you have to worry about it party comp, but the bosses in there are in such a way that you can still make it. You so have to do DR weekly for something, so people will be in there.
Castrum on the other hand you are at the whim of who wants to do it or not, when most of the time people are in there to do Skirmishes/CEs.
Off topic but DR was pretty fun doing blind, we wiped on the 4 guards once but definitely a fun time.

[OrpheusKappa]

Well see for DR, I dont mind it. You will always have the correct amount of people. Only thing you have to worry about it party comp, but the bosses in there are in such a way that you can still make it. You so have to do DR weekly for something, so people will be in there.
Castrum on the other hand you are at the whim of who wants to do it or not, when most of the time people are in there to do Skirmishes/CEs.
Off topic but DR was pretty fun doing blind, we wiped on the 4 guards once but definitely a fun time.

Yeah not worried about DR, sounds fun new content to me. Just added a psa for the people who did not like bozja but want their relics since there is a good amount of them.

[DynnDiablos]

Seeing as I haven't even done Castrum yet and lost interest collecting memories for the first phase of the relic, at this point I figure I am screwed. Doubt I will get anyone to do Castrum and by the time I get to the new raid no one will be doing it either.

[Iscah]

The new raid is pretty fantastic. Great raid design, great time playing! Unfortunately, the next relic grind is horrific. Either, apparently, 15 crystal tower raids (LoTA..), or CEs, for the new memories. However, CEs only offer a CHANCE of dropping 1 of the 15 memories you need. I did 3 CEs over a period of 45 minutes and got 1 memory!

Theoretically the plan is probably that you'll be doing CEs as you level ranks 10-15 after doing Castrum at 10, but we don't get to see the big picture yet. :/