Snowcloak 2nd Boss

[Luin]

Clearly SE is receptive to changing dungeon bosses, even well designed bosses like Coincounter, so why not change one of the worst dungeon bosses in the entire game?

Snowcloak's 2nd boss the Yeti, in an MSQ-required dungeon.

Basically it has a bunch of HP, and the idea is to have the tank face the boss towards the spriggans, so the boss will use his cone to freeze the spriggans, and then have players hit the snowballs into the boss.

This is a very simple boss, that could be either 3 minutes or 30 minutes. The problem comes from a "language barrier". Two simple commands of - dont hit spriggan & dont hit snowball - allow even 1 competent player to complete this boss, assuming 1 person isn't sabotaging the party, but that 1 saboteur always exists.

After about 10 minutes in this single fight, one would prefer the penalty, only to realize that escape is impossible during combat. But death is also impossible, since there isn't enough damage in this fight.

My solution - Make his room-wide AoE an enrage, and kill the party. This way it allows players to escape that frozen trap party. Want players to do mechanics? Then actually force them to do mechanics, dont let them brute force it and say after a 30m dungeon boss "a clears a clear XDXD".

[ItMe]

If the language barrier is the issue you could always try marking things with the (/) no symbol.

[Luin]

If the language barrier is the issue you could always try marking things with the (/) no symbol.

It's not a real language barrier, I'm trying to be polite.

It's willful ignorance, the symbols will do nothing. It's 1 person sabotaging the party and trapping them.

But even ignoring the griefing potential this boss has, it's not well designed. If it's to teach about mob positioning, then why can the mechanic be solved by a single person, or ignored entirely?

[Kuroka]

But i feel it has gotten a better a lot now, maybe they already nerved it? I recall it being a lot harder and taking longer then my last few runs - even with newbie's took...

[HyoMinPark]

Yeah I feel like something was adjusted. A lot of parties I get just ignore building snowballs entirely outside of maybe one or two, and just zerg the Yeti down.

[Hatfright]

wdym "worst bosses". I love this boss. =(

Joking aside, SE really need to stop with "you can ignore everything and still make it". When I was doing this dungeon for the first time aoe from this boss hit pretty hard and got us a debuff, ensuring second one will kill us, IIRC. Punishment for ignoring mechanics need to be a thing. >_>