Why do Viera and Hrothgar Pay the Same for Less?

[Packetdancer]

I suspect the reason Viera and Hrothgar don't pay less for Mogstation glamour despite being unable to wear the hats is, as other people have said, because you're buying the glamour items and they don't care what you do with them. You don't get a refund on hats when you fantasia from Au Ra into Viera, you don't get a refund on the female glamours if you fantasia from a miqo'te Seeker lady into a giant Roegadyn guy, etc. And you're free to buy the male glamours to put your retainers (or Kai-Shirr) into them, etc.

Beyond that, I think (though I'm not sure) that these particular sets actually pre-date the Viera and Hrothgar, as I think they may have been older ones exclusive to one of the Chinese or Korean versions of the game that are licensed from Square and run by other folks (and who are running considerably behind the global version in terms of what patch they're at).

Doesn't mean they shouldn't have probably adjusted the items for Viera and Hrothgar when they brought the items across into the global game, mind you. Though for all I know, the potential legal complexities of licensing content back from people who license Square's content and then add stuff to it... maybe they're not allowed to change the items, or whatever. (I certainly saw weirder contract conditions when I worked in the games industry, so.)

But all that aside, while I get not wanting to go back and retroactively fix all previous headgear for Hrothgar and Viera—which was a cost folks pretty much knew was coming going into the addition of two new races (or really, one new race that just is split into gender-locked variants of two races)—I do feel like it's a little disappointing they don't seem to be making the headgear work on new stuff in general going forward (even if I understand the designers probably having some frustration with how you'd handle Viera ears for some of them).

I certainly do think selling pieces of sets would be great; I have never, that I can think of, used an entirety of a set at once. The most I've done, I believe, is two pieces of a specific glamour set at once; my long-time WHM glamour was the Lightning chest (dyed white) and boots, along with the Leonhart pants and gloves, and the Nezha Lady headpiece.

And while I use the Nezha Star headpiece so often that it's basically part of the character's design at this point, I don't think I've ever actually used any other piece of that glamour set.

So being able to buy the individual parts of a glamour set would be exceptionally nice.

[Haruka_R]

So being able to buy the individual parts of a glamour set would be exceptionally nice.

It would. Only the gloves work with my outfit.

[Iscah]

I wish you could buy outfit pieces individually. I have no desire for any of the costumes on the mog station, but I do like a lot of the pieces. Easiest solution would be keep the costume packs as is, and then have a break-down menu. Obviously this would have buying the whole pack be less expensive as buying each piece on their own, but you could just get that top you really like and not have the other 4 pieces collect dust on a retainer.

I'd love it too, but they unfortunately seem to be going in the opposite direction - the Lightning and Snow outfits used to be sold in pieces alongside the full set, with the hairstyle as a bonus for buying the set, but they removed those from the shop and only sell the sets now.

The real question is why when they are creating these items they make them adjust to Viera and Hrothgar right then and there? Seems like double work

Because it's not about retrofitting versus making new ones compatible, it's about the design of the races that does not allow them to wear most hats. Ever. They said that from the start.

[SturmChurro]

I have a Hrothgar ALT. And honestly, the apparent work people did in the background to fit in most Glasses and Face Type gear to the Hrothgar was more then Perfect for me. I am eternally grateful we got it last minute. (apparently)
Im the type that likes to see my characters face, but Im not big on Hats. So being able to Put on Glasses so I can have the 'Mature", smart or sage type look was just BOOM, perfect!. (Specs are sexy-fight me)

There is more then enough discussion around this topic on another thread, but Im gonna echo hope that 6.0 will feature some updates to both Viera and Hrothgar.
I can easily be wrong, but I will found out soon enough

Missed this post earlier. Don't get me wrong now, I think the devs giving their own time so hrothgar/viera players could have some headgear is more than admirable - and is probably the reason they continue to receive some headgear, rather than none. But, a lot of this headgear floats really badly - on both. For example, the Far Eastern Schoolgirl's Hair Ribbon floats above a viera's head, and actually the only hair, at least that I used, that would work for it was the big ponytail. I wish we could receive some updates to alleviate this somewhat. At least with certain pieces.

[lalin]

i question myself the same thing sometimes and find myself wanting to fantasia back to lalafell or any other race just to use hats again , but when i try and make an alt or go look at my screenshots i change my mind again i prefer how viera look in glams compared to other races also being the tallest in almost every party i enter , i still miss my lalafell sometimes .
as for the new mogstation outfit thankfully i don't really like the hat so i might buy it just for the top , as others said here i wish they sell them separately

[HeyMcFly]

They were both rushed and SE knows people will shell out money for them

They really need a hard update- more hairstyles/ hrothgar need to be able to change hair without having to use a fantasia- that is such an obvious money grab or just a lack of caring


IMO Viera should have been released 1st, finished & not the lackluster e-girl go to that they are. They should have had access to all hats being visible
Hrothgar should have been worked on following up with a later patch

Both races deserved more time

[ForteNightshade]

A huge problem actually. Having to buy the full bundle sucks. I don't use most of the mogstation pieces I own. There's still some more I have yet to buy, I only like ONE piece on them. This would be a godsend, really.

Case in point, I would buy several of the flats for my alt characters because I adore those shoes. While I like the Togi itself, I don't care to have it on every character. I honestly feel like they're missing out on an opportunity.

[Fhaerron]

Smoll indie company.


Please, understand.

[Lihtleita]

they can fix viera but won't because they can't do the same for hrothgar without starting over.
all of hrothgars woes relate to their incredibly thick neck and the way they hunch over. any hair we already have will probably clip through the neck and the only way to put a hat on them is to drastically resize and reposition it.
another solution would be to do what wow did, giving them a unique headpiece that can be reskinned to match the gearset, but that only works in wow because most of their gear (robes especially) are the same mesh with new textures. it doesnt fit as well in ffxiv.

[Akimori]

they can fix viera but won't because they can't do the same for hrothgar without starting over.
all of hrothgars woes relate to their incredibly thick neck and the way they hunch over. any hair we already have will probably clip through the neck and the only way to put a hat on them is to drastically resize and reposition it.
another solution would be to do what wow did, giving them a unique headpiece that can be reskinned to match the gearset, but that only works in wow because most of their gear (robes especially) are the same mesh with new textures. it doesnt fit as well in ffxiv.

I always say to myself,: I can understand not wanting to really go back and mess with the older stuff, but not developing the newer stuff along side every other race for Hrothgar and viera makes 0 sense to me.

Case in point; The windcaller (?) hairstyle from bozja. Some hairstyles also really wouldn't require an entire refit (the shorter hairstyles). Another point would be some of their hairstyles really wouldnt require a drastic amount of work (check around the internet and you'll see). Also, I think that Mogstation items should be the exception to the limited headgear for viera and hrothgar because I mean...you're actually using your money to buy it....you should be able to wear the headgear...