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  1. #30071
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    Quote Originally Posted by tdb View Post
    Sure, keeping regen on all the time is unnecessary. But is that some kind of insurmountable problem for you? A good tank should be able to handle the pull even with regen on.


    And how was I supposed to know that when you didn't write it in your post?
    Here we go again. Not even worth it.
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    Last edited by SturmChurro; 01-26-2021 at 01:55 AM. Reason: Not even worth it. I can't talk like an actual human being. Not here. Add me on discord for an actual opinion.
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  2. #30072
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    I fall in the camp only one valid size of pull when everyone DPS has an AoE, LARGE. Though two packs is not a big pull, and honestly no one really should even be defending that style of play. Since at that point what do you even need a healer for if you will be doing single pulls. Probably potions might be enough in many situations.

    End of the day sorry you had to go through something like that, sometimes the player base can be infuriating.
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    Last edited by Awha; 01-26-2021 at 02:43 AM.

  3. #30073
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    Quote Originally Posted by Awha View Post
    I fall in the camp only one valid size of pull when everyone DPS has an AoE, LARGE. Though two packs is not a big pull, and honestly no one really should even be defending that style of play. Since at that point what do you even need a healer for if you will be doing single pulls. Probably potions might be enough in many situations.
    If only you could read my unfiltered thoughts about all this..

    I agree. It's ridiculous. I literally mean two packs (6 enemies - sometimes 5) too, that is what I was getting criticized for. Pulling "too big". If a healer panics at two packs, and only heals themself, they shouldn't be playing healer, frankly. I actually got rescued at one point when I tried going for a second pack. It was absolutely ridiculous.
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    Last edited by SturmChurro; 01-26-2021 at 02:48 AM.
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  4. #30074
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    If only you could read my unfiltered thoughts about all this..

    I agree. It's ridiculous. I literally mean two packs (6 enemies) too, that is what I was getting criticized for. Pulling "too big". If a healer panics at two packs, and only heals themself, they shouldn't be playing healer, frankly. I actually got rescued at one point when I tried going for a second pack. It was absolutely ridiculous.
    See I find that funny, cause I recall some would get upset about having a healer use rescue on the tank to pull more, but I do wonder how people would feel about a healer using rescue to prevent a tank from pulling more. Would they also consider that toxic? I do agree if a healer or tank have a hard time with dealing with two or more packs then they should not be playing said role. Doing anything less starts to bring in to question what is the point of bringing said role.
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  5. #30075
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    It's like I am the one at fault here. I was being actually insulted, called names, etc. But sure I am the one at wrong here. I could have reported them, that's how bad. I was never aggressive once in any of my chat messages, nor was I spewing profanity like some of these people. Maybe I should have included some of the chat logs, but I would have had to censor not only the names, but the chat itself.
    I wouldn't say you were at fault for getting frustrated. All of that would have tested even the most patient of us. Heck, I might have been tempted to say something and I never really say anything. lol My initial thought, based on the information we had at the time, was that you should try to adapt to the situation at hand. The alleged state of the chat logs were not acceptable regardless. Sounds like it was total chaos now though, so I'm not entirely sure if there was a right way to handle it other than bowing out in silence at the first available opportunity. That's probably what I would have done.
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  6. #30076
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    I wouldn't say you were at fault for getting frustrated. All of that would have tested even the most patient of us. Heck, I might have been tempted to say something and I never really say anything. lol My initial thought, based on the information we had at the time, was that you should try to adapt to the situation at hand. The alleged state of the chat logs were not acceptable regardless. Sounds like it was total chaos now though, so I'm not entirely sure if there was a right way to handle it other than bowing out in silence at the first available opportunity. That's probably what I would have done.
    No way would I blow up like that in in-game chat. I'm not going to risk my account, that I have spent thousands of dollars on over bad words, or resort to insults. There's a reason I've never had a GM interaction in-game. I have been chatting more often recently, granted, but I still keep it relatively PG. I am incredibly paranoid though. It's why almost all my posts are edited here, for more than just grammatical errors.

    If I hadn't made it clear, I was continuing to pull two packs at a time regardless of what they were spewing in chat, and I wasn't really saying much in chat. If it was such a huge problem, they could have kicked me at any time, but I strongly suspected they were waiting until the end, the feeling I was getting from the chat was going in that direction. It's why I pulled a couple nearly dead adds into the last boss. The chat was at it's worst right after that, actually. So, I'm pretty sure my feeling was correct. I was most definitely not going to leave either, I wasn't about to take a 30 minute penalty, when I wanted to level my paladin right then.

    Yes, I level tank through dungeons, always have. I have tanked MANY dungeons.
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    Last edited by SturmChurro; 01-26-2021 at 07:22 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Awha View Post
    I fall in the camp only one valid size of pull when everyone DPS has an AoE, LARGE. Though two packs is not a big pull, and honestly no one really should even be defending that style of play. Since at that point what do you even need a healer for if you will be doing single pulls. Probably potions might be enough in many situations.

    End of the day sorry you had to go through something like that, sometimes the player base can be infuriating.
    Then report them for Obstruction if it's that bad of a problem.
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  8. #30078
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    Yes, I level tank through dungeons, always have. I have tanked MANY dungeons.
    Then you should know by now how to deal with this: pull less or leave. Problem solved.
    Dungeons means teamplay. The moment someone starts an argument, just leave. Its not worth it.
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  9. #30079
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hausti View Post
    Then you should know by now how to deal with this: pull less or leave. Problem solved.
    Dungeons means teamplay. The moment someone starts an argument, just leave. Its not worth it.
    Why would I leave? I can handle the content, they can leave instead.

    Why should I take a penalty? It's ridiculous.
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    Last edited by SturmChurro; 01-26-2021 at 07:49 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    Why would I leave? I can handle the content, they can leave instead.

    Why should I take a penalty? It's ridiculous.
    Because the 30mins penalty really doesnt mean anything. As a tank you get instapops all the time.

    And its much healthier to just leave instead of sticking arround "toxic" players as you called it.

    Also its not about you being able to handle the content. Like i said dungeons means teamplay.
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