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    deeto's Avatar
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    Boboba Boba
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    Faerie
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    Dancer Lv 90

    You're not supposed to stay up all night clicking to buy a fake house in a game..

    Yet I, and many more still do.
    The system is clearly flawed, yet it doesn't stop us from paying our sub.

    Do the developers still care? This is one of the many issues that must be answered on February 5th.

    Either make more wards, to facilitate EVERYONE, or raise prices since yall are so hell-bent on keeping the capitalism model. Or I don't know to make instanced housing, idk computers.

    Please fix this.
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    Last edited by deeto; 01-23-2021 at 11:53 PM.

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    Daevid Xanaetos
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    Tonberry
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Been camping since Friday (22/01/2021), only to be beaten by people who came after and happen to be super lucky.
    This housing system is not healthy for its players.
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    R'ahlin Taka
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    Mateus
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    Monk Lv 100
    Is it healthy? No.

    Is Square Enix forcing you to stay up all night to click a placard? Also no.

    While the systems in place can certainly do with an update, or modification. It is also not Square Enix's fault for player-driven obsession. Until any actual information can be given to us on possible changes or alterations to the system, you are responsible for your own actions. You are the only one who can actively decide when to stop for your own medical health or sleep-schedule.

    Housing isn't worth losing sleep over. Nothing should be worth more than your own well-being. But to that end, it's up to us to pick when to take a break.
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    Player Kuroka's Avatar
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    Ulala Ula
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    Shiva
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenky View Post
    Is Square Enix forcing you to stay up all night to click a placard? Also no.
    Yes, yes they are. Maybe not at gunpoint but they are. Its like saying you dont need to semi no-life to get an ishgard ranking lol


    At the very least, they could stop the timer during late night hours from like 22:00 till 8:00 for each servers timezone...
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    Jojoya Joya
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    Coeurl
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuroka View Post
    At the very least, they could stop the timer during late night hours from like 22:00 till 8:00 for each servers timezone...
    No. There are lots of other players playing at those times even if you personally don't. if that's when the timer ends up expiring, then they get their chance to purchase.
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    Jyn Willowsong
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuroka View Post
    Yes, yes they are. Maybe not at gunpoint but they are. Its like saying you dont need to semi no-life to get an ishgard ranking lol


    At the very least, they could stop the timer during late night hours from like 22:00 till 8:00 for each servers timezone...

    People who play at odd hours exist. You'd be locking people out who work at different hours than the usual day shifts.
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    Player Kuroka's Avatar
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    Ulala Ula
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mavrias View Post
    People who play at odd hours exist. You'd be locking people out who work at different hours than the usual day shifts.
    YEs and accidents etc happen which could make me loose my house, so well.... I dont say thats perfect but its a start.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuroka View Post
    YEs and accidents etc happen which could make me loose my house, so well.... I dont say thats perfect but its a start.
    What does the potential for accidents have to do with you wanting to lock more people out of the running to get a house?

    You lose a house so Johnny who works the evening shift has to have a harder time buying one?
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    R'ahlin Taka
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    Mateus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuroka View Post
    Yes, yes they are. Maybe not at gunpoint but they are.
    Would you care to explain *how* they are forcing you to stay up all night? because there have been plenty of people that fight this point and they all fall short.

    The people of the past have said they were being forced because of the following. Included, but not limited to:

    - Housing is Required for Gardening
    - Housing is Required for Completion
    - Housing is there and I want it, therefore..

    The first two couldn't be more wrong. You don't need a house to garden. There are plant pots that work inside an Apartment to do the same thing. Cross-breeding cannot be done with said plant-pots, but you do not need to cross-breed, as you can purchase the seeds you require from other players.

    The third? I find it laughable, to be frank. If you want the house, then it's not SE forcing you to do it. That's your obsession talking. You're holding the gun pointed at your own head.

    If it is not any of these three, please enlighten me. As I do genuinely want to see just where the "forcing us to camp" mentality stems from, if not Obsession.
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    Rajesh Anand
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuroka View Post
    Yes, yes they are. Maybe not at gunpoint but they are. Its like saying you dont need to semi no-life to get an ishgard ranking lol
    While I sympathize with players who don't have a house, I find myself disagreeing with this completely.

    At some point, you have to decide what is more important: your medical well-being or obtaining a virtual house in a video game.

    You are free to make any decision you want, but do not place the blame on anyone other than yourself. It is you and only you who chooses to deprive yourself of sleep.

    There are people in this forum who have deprived themselves of so much sleep that it has cost them their physical health, schoolwork, and other life responsibilities. Sleep deprivation is extremely dangerous, and can prevent you from functioning to the best of your abilities.

    Here is my suggestion.

    Buy an apartment (so you can have a space to call your own), and periodically search for available houses. If it is time for you to sleep or attend to errands/work, do that instead. Don't neglect your health and life responsibilities.

    Once Ishgard housing is released, many more plots will be free to purchase. Leave your character in your desired housing district before the patch, log into the game right after patch goes up, and pick up whatever is available (and then you will be able to transfer freely). You probably won't be able to get your dream plot, but chances are there will be enough for you to get one.

    In the meantime, don't stress yourself over a house. It's not worth it.

    I do believe something should be done to alleviate the issues of obtaining a house, especially when it comes to bots. But as of now, the only feasible solutions seem to be adding more wards and offering apartments as alternatives given the nature of the game. Until those improvements are made, please take care of yourself.
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