Male Viera as a playable character! show your support

[WhiteArchmage]

Au Ra males have a pretty good design, some odd choices here and there but when I picked up my Mateus alt I noticed they're very well built, and not just in the "muscular" department. Their heads are well crafted, their racial hairstyles are pretty good; the narrow waist is an odd choice, but the majority of chest pieces give it a more "athletic" build than "hourglass" figure. Their stance is powerful and imposing, although I remember their emotes being kinda goofy, their run animation looks pretty good.

Honestly, for all that Viera are "Elezen done right" I would love if Male Au Ra were used as a base for Male Viera. They certainly fit the "feral warrior fending for himself" theme. Not that I'd complain if they were slimmer with a "male model/bishonen" aesthetic, really; it depends on how well they fit the "theme."

[Styrmwyda]

You have every right to be vindictive. I'm in the crowd that wishes female Au Ra weren't so small in stature (the height difference makes me rather uncomfortable honestly), and they resembled more how they did in the concept art. A few years back I remember the devs hinting about a potential 3rd race of Au Ra, which would be a perfect opportunity to give us tall Au Ra ladies.

That being said, I do not want there to be a reverse Au Ra situation with Viera, please. If anything make it an option to be shorter if people wish.



Exactly this.

Frankly, I just want Au Ra to have the sexual dimorphism retconed. Let me be a tall lizard girl! (sorry for going briefly off topic). Of course, the main reason that I think male Viera should be shorter is because female Viera are considered more dominant.

[Theodric]

Au Ra males have a pretty good design, some odd choices here and there but when I picked up my Mateus alt I noticed they're very well built, and not just in the "muscular" department. Their heads are well crafted, their racial hairstyles are pretty good; the narrow waist is an odd choice, but the majority of chest pieces give it a more "athletic" build than "hourglass" figure. Their stance is powerful and imposing, although I remember their emotes being kinda goofy, their run animation looks pretty good.

Honestly, for all that Viera are "Elezen done right" I would love if Male Au Ra were used as a base for Male Viera. They certainly fit the "feral warrior fending for himself" theme. Not that I'd complain if they were slimmer with a "male model/bishonen" aesthetic, really; it depends on how well they fit the "theme."

It took me a while to warm up to them but they're my main choice these days. I still like Midlander men a lot but it's very frustrating seeing the cinematic Warrior of Darkness sporting stubble that isn't available to player characters. Furthermore, I like playing tall characters. I also think Raen/Xaela men generally look good in armour and they can be designed to be quite handsome. The scales, tail and horns can take a bit of getting used to but to me they're unique enough to be inhuman without being too far out there.

I guess my ideal choice would be to have the option to play a character that looks like Snow, Basch or Gladio but I don't see that happening anytime soon since although Highlander men have the physique for that, the faces leave a lot to be desired. Not to mention the lack of eyebrows...

[SturmChurro]

It took me a while to warm up to them but they're my main choice these days. I still like Midlander men a lot but it's very frustrating seeing the cinematic Warrior of Darkness sporting stubble that isn't available to player characters. Furthermore, I like playing tall characters. I also think Raen/Xaela men generally look good in armour and they can be designed to be quite handsome. The scales, tail and horns can take a bit of getting used to but to me they're unique enough to be inhuman without being too far out there.

I guess my ideal choice would be to have the option to play a character that looks like Snow, Basch or Gladio but I don't see that happening anytime soon since although Highlander men have the physique for that, the faces leave a lot to be desired. Not to mention the lack of eyebrows...

Tell me about it! Even though midlander men can, apparently, reach 6 foot at max height, I'd still rather have them just a bit taller. Not only that they suffer from probably the worst same face syndrome in the game, and that probably is in no small part due to how most of their face options just look.. weird. Plus don't even get me started on the hairstyles, and yeah - the stubble. I like my males to be handsome, and masculine. This game simply doesn't offer that.

Au Ra males on the other hand, are probably the one male I think looks nice. Though, I don't like their hourglass shape myself. Their animations also seem kind of goofy to me. HATE the clipping though. If I was to play a male - on my alt - I like my males to wear helmets, or headgear in general (masks, etc.) the large horns, just don't do it for me. This is why bunny boys would just never work for me. No matter how they did it. I'd prefer improved customization for hyurs (midlanders), myself.

[Lauront]

Frankly, I just want Au Ra to have the sexual dimorphism retconed. Let me be a tall lizard girl! (sorry for going briefly off topic). Of course, the main reason that I think male Viera should be shorter is because female Viera are considered more dominant.

They're only more "dominant" in the sense that they have control over the settlements, while the males are more or less solitary (I say this because they've got a mentor system) protectors and hunters, whose sole interaction with the settlements is to return, breed and collect their mentees when they come of age. This is a very typically male sex role, in fact it is one taken to an extreme. Also, mooncats have a similarly matriarchal system, but it doesn't mean the women will be physically larger. Just that they have positions of authority in their society.

Personally I agree with you about female Au Ra, but I don't think taking a "vindictive" approach here is going to resolve anything other than annoy many of us who don't want male Viera to be the victims of that. My view is they should've given female Au Ra a bigger height range, like female Roegadyn, because SE clearly is happy with the money the tiny waifus made them. However, I loathe their shrimpy look, personally, and I think it looks stupid next to the males, and doesn't fit either the Raen or the Xaela, as both have martial traditions, where the women were also expected to fight. They both evolved in the harsh conditions of the Steppes and Raen retained their martial tradition even as they spread throughout Othard. A height range to something like a female Highlander or Elezen would've been nice.

I've suggested in the past that what they can do for male Viera is just that - put in a height slider that goes below the females min height but reaches around the max height of a male Elezen, and also add in a muscle tone slider. Whatever the coding challenges of it, it's high time we saw races besides Hyur and Roegadyn get muscle tone sliders. I suspect they're going to do what they did with female Viera and take it as their chance to "correct" the awkwardness of the Elezen body type by providing a substitute option.

It took me a while to warm up to them but they're my main choice these days. I still like Midlander men a lot but it's very frustrating seeing the cinematic Warrior of Darkness sporting stubble that isn't available to player characters. Furthermore, I like playing tall characters. I also think Raen/Xaela men generally look good in armour and they can be designed to be quite handsome. The scales, tail and horns can take a bit of getting used to but to me they're unique enough to be inhuman without being too far out there.

I guess my ideal choice would be to have the option to play a character that looks like Snow, Basch or Gladio but I don't see that happening anytime soon since although Highlander men have the physique for that, the faces leave a lot to be desired. Not to mention the lack of eyebrows...

Frankly, even though Midlanders are my go-to, I wish you could make them buffer, sort of like monk derplander. This game lacks the tech for it, and it would no doubt be very expensive to implement, but it does show the appeal of adding the capability for many body types or body type sliders... and fixing those damn invisible nipples.

Au Ra males have a pretty good design, some odd choices here and there but when I picked up my Mateus alt I noticed they're very well built, and not just in the "muscular" department. Their heads are well crafted, their racial hairstyles are pretty good; the narrow waist is an odd choice, but the majority of chest pieces give it a more "athletic" build than "hourglass" figure. Their stance is powerful and imposing, although I remember their emotes being kinda goofy, their run animation looks pretty good.

Honestly, for all that Viera are "Elezen done right" I would love if Male Au Ra were used as a base for Male Viera. They certainly fit the "feral warrior fending for himself" theme. Not that I'd complain if they were slimmer with a "male model/bishonen" aesthetic, really; it depends on how well they fit the "theme."

I'd agree and I would consider Au Ra to be an even better base for them, but it depends on whether they want to take a similar approach to what they did with the females, or not. I think Au Ra men probably have the best facial design of any male race in the game. I'd have liked the option to take them a bit buffer yet, but that goes back to the whole issue of body sliders!

[LisSquid]

I think tiny buff bunny boys would be very cool, actually. We've never seen a male viera, and they could pull anything they want and it would work.

[zeylos]

To be honest SE probs wants to make as much money from male viera as possible due to them being very expensive to make ,so I'd say theyre gonna be extremely handsome and fan servicy

[Fukuro]

Hey, if one race has to suffer a big sexual dimorphism with women being the shorter ones, so should another race with with men being the shorter ones. It's fair. Yes, as an Auri woman player I'm vindictive.

Sorry, no thanks. I'm still bummed they didn't stick with that one awesome, tall and sexy kind of devilish looking female au'ra concept art design. I don't want to see something like that again

[Juzjuzz]

I think tiny buff bunny boys would be very cool, actually. We've never seen a male viera, and they could pull anything they want and it would work.

Male viera looking like fearless warriors is the most important point imo. The way they stand and behave should show that 1rst, not their size and their muscles.

[zeylos]

Hey, if one race has to suffer a big sexual dimorphism with women being the shorter ones, so should another race with with men being the shorter ones. It's fair. Yes, as an Auri woman player I'm vindictive.

I am of the opinion that two wrongs dont make 1 right, if anything, if they ever were to update character creation overall (which I find very unlikely for 6.0, maybe for 7-8.0 its more likely together with a full graphical update) female au ra could get a good height slider that allow them to be way taller