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    I support a very simple lottery system:

    1) go to the plot u want
    2) pay the full price for the plot and you get a lottery ticket
    3) if you move away from the plot, your lottery ticket is on hold and frozen until you come back to the plot
    4) when the random timer expires, the server draws a random winner for all players with a ticket and next to the plot (aka "YOU MUST BE PRESENT TO WIN!").
    5) if you win, and you're next to the plot, awesome
    6) all players who didn't win get their money back

    What this does is just remove the click fest/bots/macros. It lets you talk, emote, interact with other players, craft, etc. All other rules of the existing system still apply (timers, etc).
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    Quote Originally Posted by blu789 View Post
    I support a very simple lottery system:

    1) go to the plot u want
    2) pay the full price for the plot and you get a lottery ticket
    3) if you move away from the plot, your lottery ticket is on hold and frozen until you come back to the plot
    4) when the random timer expires, the server draws a random winner for all players with a ticket and next to the plot (aka "YOU MUST BE PRESENT TO WIN!").
    5) if you win, and you're next to the plot, awesome
    6) all players who didn't win get their money back

    What this does is just remove the click fest/bots/macros. It lets you talk, emote, interact with other players, craft, etc. All other rules of the existing system still apply (timers, etc).
    That won't solve anything. Again, that's just another way for the RMT sites to plop 50 of them down at each plot and swarm the market.

    You have really only one option: If the plot is not available, the price is not visible to anyone. It doesn't matter if the plot is vacant and the random timer is going or if the timer to demolish is going or whatever. For all you know, "FizzWidget Whatsit" still owns it until all timers run out - or whatever the person's name was.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wrestlefire769 View Post
    That won't solve anything. Again, that's just another way for the RMT sites to plop 50 of them down at each plot and swarm the market.

    You have really only one option: If the plot is not available, the price is not visible to anyone. It doesn't matter if the plot is vacant and the random timer is going or if the timer to demolish is going or whatever. For all you know, "FizzWidget Whatsit" still owns it until all timers run out - or whatever the person's name was.
    this is the current system minus clicking. how does it support RMT anymore than the current system? The timer still applies as it currently does.
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    Player Wrestlefire769's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by blu789 View Post
    this is the current system minus clicking. how does it support RMT anymore than the current system? The timer still applies as it currently does.
    The key is, and this is where I get a bit frustrated with some of the other people, you don't know the status of that timer.

    If the gil number is up there, you know the timer is "sufficiently short" that you can plop a bot there, script the entire process, and hope that, the instant the plot becomes available, your script is the first one to hit.

    Without that knowledge, you could be there six months and not know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wrestlefire769 View Post
    The key is, and this is where I get a bit frustrated with some of the other people, you don't know the status of that timer.

    If the gil number is up there, you know the timer is "sufficiently short" that you can plop a bot there, script the entire process, and hope that, the instant the plot becomes available, your script is the first one to hit.

    Without that knowledge, you could be there six months and not know.
    With a lottery + timer, each human and/or bot can only register once. The game chooses one person with no reliance on the number of clicks. Just proximity and whoever holds one lottery ticket. It's far better than what we have now.

    A plot that is open for 6 months is worse than a 45 day demolition timer.
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