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    Wyakin's Avatar
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    Odin
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    Sorry @OP. It’s just bad content, you’re not missing much
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    Father Gascoigne
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    Jenova
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Wyakin View Post
    Sorry @OP. It’s just bad content, you’re not missing much
    Yea, I honestly don't get why MMO's do this. If you're going to create content like this you NEED failsafes in place for when participation declines. Create incentives to keep running this forever like with MSQ; make it scale down to the number of participants; add AI to fill the gaps when you can't get enough people together; something...

    Instead they seem to have done the opposite. Not only is there no incentive to keep running it; you're actually punished for doing it by way of losing mettle.

    I really hope the relic isn't tied to completion of this poorly thought out content.
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    TaleraRistain's Avatar
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    Thalia Beckford
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    Jenova
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Goji1639 View Post
    Yea, I honestly don't get why MMO's do this. If you're going to create content like this you NEED failsafes in place for when participation declines. Create incentives to keep running this forever like with MSQ; make it scale down to the number of participants; add AI to fill the gaps when you can't get enough people together; something...

    Instead they seem to have done the opposite. Not only is there no incentive to keep running it; you're actually punished for doing it by way of losing mettle.

    I really hope the relic isn't tied to completion of this poorly thought out content.
    Not to mention a benefit of previous relics was to infuse interest in older content. And they were designed in such a way that you can still do ARR or HW relics today.

    This will be two expansions now where they tied the relic to a zone with a limited shelf life where you have to take on a semi-raider mentality to take part for a weapon that is supposed to be the alternative to raiding.
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    Elan Centauri
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    Diabolos
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    Not to mention a benefit of previous relics was to infuse interest in older content. And they were designed in such a way that you can still do ARR or HW relics today.

    This will be two expansions now where they tied the relic to a zone with a limited shelf life where you have to take on a semi-raider mentality to take part for a weapon that is supposed to be the alternative to raiding.
    Shadowbringers' relic isn't tied to Bozja outside of a few introduction quests in Gangos, which are story related. Gotta clear the Ivalice raids though, but that's not much of an issue. It can be done in Bozja, but is largely designed to be completed outside of it so far.
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    Last edited by Vahlnir; 01-23-2021 at 08:55 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    Shadowbringers' relic isn't tied to Bozja outside of a few introduction quests in Gangos, which are story related. Gotta clear the Ivalice raids though, but that's not much of an issue. It can be done in Bozja, but is largely designed to be completed outside of it so far.
    Other comments have indicated a live letter said the continuing relic steps may be tied to completing the story in Bozja.
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