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  1. #591
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    This reinforces my belief that they might want to delay the merge until April. It will give them time determine how many returning people plan to stay because of Ver 1.21. This could change server demographics and needs to be evaluated. Anyone not here after 04/01/2012 probably will not return til Ver 2.0 9 months away. Secondly it gives them time to compile and evaluate all the feedback including those of returning players and incorporate this into their decision making process.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRac25 View Post
    this ends up about the same as option 2, there is still the random forced move problem though
    almost. the only real diffrence will be SE still doesnt need to reveal the server names so people wont hunt after best server name. Non active players could be moved to recomended servers too.
    It would be the best form between option 2 and 4 in my opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rizon View Post
    This reinforces my belief that they might want to delay the merge until April. It will give them time determine how many returning people plan to stay because of Ver 1.21. This could change server demographics and needs to be evaluated. Anyone not here after 04/01/2012 probably will not return til Ver 2.0 9 months away. Secondly it gives them time to compile and evaluate all the feedback including those of returning players and incorporate this into their decision making process.
    I agree with this, I know some people on small servers are anxious but we are only going to get one chance before 2.0 probably. I'd rather they got distribution right.
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  4. #594
    If they do delay the merge no one can complain about it since it was delayed due to their complaining in the first place. We know it is very likely people will resub for 1.21 since every patch tends to bring people back/outta inactivity, but it's also apparent they do have a system in place ready for the "new way" or "missed out" people so I don't think it would be delayed for a recount.

    When they calculate server numbers it's more than likely through the main software which doesn't gain/lose numbers due to inactivity (look at how they calculate WoW's numbers), it's only new subs that may add some in but even then they proven with XI's census they keep very detailed data and won't have to recalculate much if they're aiming for around 2-4k people per server.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    If they do delay the merge no one can complain about it since it was delayed due to their complaining in the first place. We know it is very likely people will resub for 1.21 since every patch tends to bring people back/outta inactivity, but it's also apparent they do have a system in place ready for the "new way" or "missed out" people so I don't think it would be delayed for a recount.

    When they calculate server numbers it's more than likely through the main software which doesn't gain/lose numbers due to inactivity (look at how they calculate WoW's numbers), it's only new subs that may add some in but even then they proven with XI's census they keep very detailed data and won't have to recalculate much if they're aiming for around 2-4k people per server.
    "March 1 (Thursday) to March 19 (Monday), 2012: Character transfer selection period. *
    March 27 (Tuesday), 2012: World merge maintenance to be carried out."

    Do you feel so strongly about people complaining that you compain about their potential complaints before they have even complained about it?

    By the way, your post makes very little sense. Nice run-on sentences.
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    Good for you Zoltan.
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  8. #597
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    If they do delay the merge no one can complain about it since it was delayed due to their complaining in the first place. We know it is very likely people will resub for 1.21 since every patch tends to bring people back/outta inactivity, but it's also apparent they do have a system in place ready for the "new way" or "missed out" people so I don't think it would be delayed for a recount.

    When they calculate server numbers it's more than likely through the main software which doesn't gain/lose numbers due to inactivity (look at how they calculate WoW's numbers), it's only new subs that may add some in but even then they proven with XI's census they keep very detailed data and won't have to recalculate much if they're aiming for around 2-4k people per server.
    You are, of course, correct in everthing you said. But as you know full well players will come back and test out a new patch. A certain number will stay beyond that 1 month period. Many more have unsubbed again waiting til the next patch. As it appears that this is the defining patch for the current version of the game many more might be staying. You will not have a good handle on those numbers til the 1st of April. Wouldn't it be prudent to wait for those numbers before making a final desision?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaen View Post
    Did you miss the point of my original post? I was telling people not to call others names. I wasn't insulting anyone specifically, I was just telling people not to be insulting.

    I was just telling people to chill out because I'd like to see a bit more rationality and less pointless bickering in this server merge debate, and I tried to do it with a little humor, but I see in your "special" case this attempt backfired.
    Quote Originally Posted by Vaen View Post
    Thanks for the support.
    It appeared that your initial post was taking a direct shot at mine, which garnered a lot more "support". So I was merely responding to you... and defending my post like every other person is defending their own since the subject is such a big a deal.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rizon View Post
    This reinforces my belief that they might want to delay the merge until April. It will give them time determine how many returning people plan to stay because of Ver 1.21. This could change server demographics and needs to be evaluated. Anyone not here after 04/01/2012 probably will not return til Ver 2.0 9 months away. Secondly it gives them time to compile and evaluate all the feedback including those of returning players and incorporate this into their decision making process.
    This is an excellent point. Mr. Yoshida had mentioned releasing the current merge plan to allow time to go over feedback. When the time comes around, given their current ideology and the insite from the community, they may have a thorough plan that should make the most amount of people happy. Also, giving it enough time to monitor the playerbase post 1.21 is an equally organized idea. These things should allow for a smooth, widely accepted merge.
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    I do believe I helped suggest the Excalibur server name! http://forum.square-enix.com
    /ffxiv/threads/37465-Reassessing-the-Merger-of-FFXIV-Worlds-%2802-13-2012%29?p=552315&viewfull=1#post552315 <('o'^)

  10. #599
    Quote Originally Posted by Rizon View Post
    You are, of course, correct in everthing you said. But as you know full well players will come back and test out a new patch. A certain number will stay beyond that 1 month period. Many more have unsubbed again waiting til the next patch. As it appears that this is the defining patch for the current version of the game many more might be staying. You will not have a good handle on those numbers til the 1st of April. Wouldn't it be prudent to wait for those numbers before making a final desision?
    Most likely, but it really depends on what they set the server caps in general since realistically even though it may bring back some numbers, honestly speaking it likely won't be such a huge influx it can greatly skew things.
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    Over 200 people voiced their opinion, all though they are considering option 2, please keep voting on the poll
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