Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[Dogempire]

Levelling Roulette: The Great Gubal Library

Prior to queueing, I (DNC) partied up with my friend (GNB). I joked about giving him my dance partner instead of my co-DPS just for 'lols'
Into the run we go, the dance partner was his for entire first pull. We got matched with an AST and BRD.

"BRD? Yess, AoE happy. This should be fast!"
At least that's what I first thought. But mobs are dying slowly...? Well nevermind that. It's not like we're in hurry anyways.
Fast forward to the first boss, I swap dance partner to the BRD (yeah, time to get serious). Only then I noticed that this BRD is the infamous semi-afk/auto attacking BRD. DoT often falls off or weren't even active most of time on mobs in following pulls. Also ate 9 out of 10 aoe thrown by the giant book, did not bother to move out of aoe most of time. Except the [Disclosure] because apparently he knows he can never survive that! Poor AST had to work her ass hard with those [Benefic I] to keep him alive and [Esuna]'d.

First boss down'ed.
The joke I made prior to entering became a real meme. I legit swap the dance partner back to my GNB friend for the rest of dungeon because how 'lazy' that BRD was. All those missed GCD cast would've made even my GNB friend did way more than that semi-afk BRD.

Of course, that laziness became a semi-nightmare at last boss because apparently he never bothered to bring the marker to the walls between the arcane circles. Down he goes, followed by the AST for whatever reason... probably tunnel visioning. We could've made it just with me and my friend but he decided we should just wipe. Down we go... for 2nd try. He's gracious enough to put down waymarks to hint where to drop the marker. But guess what, laziness prevail!

"It's been a while." says the BRD.
Suuuuuure, Jan... irresponsiveness in combat though...
But y'know what? Nevermind :')
We down'ed the last boss on 2nd try with 'minor' problem.

/facepalm

I think at that point you would be justified in kicking them for AFK

[Dogempire]

PSA to anyone planning on main tanking Ravana normal: Pillar of heaven is a knockback that'll boot you off the edge and permakill you, the proximity marker is a lie, and you'll be the only one punished with permanent death because the piece of arena behind you is conveniently the only piece that doesn't actually have any railing

[Barwara]

PSA to anyone planning on main tanking Ravana normal: Pillar of heaven is a knockback that'll boot you off the edge and permakill you, the proximity marker is a lie, and you'll be the only one punished with permanent death because the piece of arena behind you is conveniently the only piece that doesn't actually have any railing

And here I am, always looking behind my back to make sure there’s railing to catch me....

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

I think at that point you would be justified in kicking them for AFK

Honestly, the thought about kicking players rarely crosses my mind, for exception very few really, really terrible player that virtually made a run impossible to clear within 60m. Besides the 'why are you being lazy'-sentiment, me and my friend were still pretty chill about it.

Anyhow, another story to fuel my next post.
Normal Raid Roulette - Eden's Promise: Anamorphosis, again with the same friend.

This time I'm the WHM and he's a NIN. Cleared the run very quickly. But since I only rerun it to help the queue, I exited after saying my 'tyfp!' right away to also not prolong the looting. Then this happened in the chatbox right after I left, which my friend mentioned in party chat (Wasn't gonna upload the screenie but my friend gave me the idea & his permission):


Really, my dear co-WHM? As soon as I left the instance, too?
I'll affirm them. "Yes, you're virtually solo healing it." Then, kindly tell me how should I pitch in if:

1. They kept topping up everybody with [Medica II] & [Afflatus Rapture]
2. On top of that, didn't even let -their own- [Medica II] ticks do their job and immediately follows up with a Plenary Rapture.
3. Didn't let my on-cooldown [Assize] or my first [Asylum] do their magic.
4. The only incoming damage were from the roomwide, targeted AoE, and tankbusters. No additional damages taken from members screwing up (it was a flawless run). Even that I still threw in Solace and Benison for the tanks. Oh and I was the one who put on that extra [Regen] + Benison on them when they were targeted by that painful lightning DoT. The former however was never necessary because again, they just [Medica II] for the win!

Surprisingly, I didn't even heard or seen any [Afflatus Solace] & [Cure II] casts coming from them. Then again why would we need those when tanks had [Regen] up almost constantly? No autoattacks to worry neither.
At some point I was already burning lilies just for movement, not for heals. Because I simply have nothing left to heal! So what else can I do besides being a Glare Mage? And don't get me started on how they pop up their [Temperance] about 5s after I popped mine for starting roomwide damage. They don't stack Please don't waste your button.

[SturmChurro]

Really, my dear co-WHM? As soon as I left the instance, too?
I'll affirm them. "Yes, you're virtually solo healing it." Then, kindly tell me how should I pitch in if:

1. They kept topping up everybody with [Medica II] & [Afflatus Rapture]
2. On top of that, didn't even let -their own- [Medica II] ticks do their job and immediately follows up with a Plenary Rapture.
3. Didn't let my on-cooldown [Assize] or my first [Asylum] do their magic.
4. The only incoming damage were from the roomwide, targeted AoE, and tankbusters. No additional damages taken from members screwing up (it was a flawless run). Even that I still threw in Solace and Benison for the tanks. Oh and I was the one who put on that extra [Regen] + Benison on them when they were targeted by that painful lightning DoT. The former however was never necessary because again, they just [Medica II] for the win!

Surprisingly, I didn't even heard or seen any [Afflatus Solace] & [Cure II] casts coming from them. Then again why would we need those when tanks had [Regen] up almost constantly? No autoattacks to worry neither.
At some point I was already burning lilies just for movement, not for heals. Because I simply have nothing left to heal! So what else can I do besides being a Glare Mage? And don't get me started on how they pop up their [Temperance] about 5s after I popped mine for starting roomwide damage. They don't stack Please don't waste your button.

Yep! The average experience with a healer in duty finder. They overheal LIKE CRAZY then claim you weren't healing at all, even if you were, OR like in your case, they overheal like crazy - and do nothing else, so unless you want to overheal too there is no point in healing. I bet these people usually get the commendations as well. I've been attacked for "not healing" - when I have been - with people like this before, and the party will agree with them. It's incredibly annoying, people who have literally no clue what they are talking about, attacking you. I heal when I need to, overhealing is pointless.

I find a lot of my kit completely useless in duty finder, because of people like this. I have very little usage of the majority of my heals - unless other players are horrifically failing mechanics, or I have to solo heal.

And it's like, oh so I wasn't healing? It was ME who saved YOUR lives MULTIPLE times on impending mechanics, because that healer was off doing WHATEVER! The reason you survived those mehcanics? ME! Not them! UGH..

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

Yep! The average experience with a healer in duty finder. They overheal LIKE CRAZY then claim you weren't healing at all, even if you were, OR like in your case, they overheal like crazy - and do nothing else...

Good thing is, that co-WHM was actually trying to cast their [Glare] as often as possible too. Of course, looking at the amount of unneeded healings they had thrown, I can only imagine how little they've contributed. Besides, I was just baffled how clueless they are about how their playstyle affecting mine, and the audacity to voice it out right after I left the instance. Good thing my friend stayed a while longer otherwise this story won't make it to this page .
On the bright side, they enabled me to ignore most healing and just be a Glare Mage because obviously...

...I heal when I need to, overhealing is pointless.

I find a lot of my kit completely useless in duty finder, because of people like this. I have very little usage of the majority of my heals - unless other players are horrifically failing mechanics, or I have to solo heal.

In some cases, I find it acceptable because no matter what, we're just a random to one another after all. We have no clue how they will perform, and vice versa. Of course, mostly it becomes clear after 1-2 minutes into an encounter whether they're being cautious or simply playing poorly. Ngl, an overhealer co-heal makes me wish they're also terrible at managing resources so that they can let me heal while they're panicking with dried up resources.

"Oh, so you wanna heal -everything- so badly? Yeah okay, go ahead buddy bud. I'll dip**** away."

[SturmChurro]

Probably just annoyed a ton of people in Cloud of Darkness. I was distracted, and had to go do something at the door mid-run. So I wasn't paying attention, constantly dying to mechanics - so were several others. I had to get up for a couple minutes really quick (open door). I thought the attempt was over, so I just closed the game when I got up, thinking well they can kick and replace me. Came back to my PC, relogged in... and they were still going. Tank and other healer doing it! Probably looked really bad, but I also needed stuff at the end, even though I didn't deserve it, oh well. What can you do. Sometimes you gotta be that person.

I would have left and taken the penalty if I could have. It was a bad scene.

[LisSquid]

Yep! The average experience with a healer in duty finder. They overheal LIKE CRAZY then claim you weren't healing at all, even if you were, OR like in your case, they overheal like crazy

I am so guilty of this (not claiming my co-healer is not doing anything, but the overheal. Overshield?), but only when I'm playing noct stance or sch in the sb and shb alliance raids. I cannot, and will not, trust my team to survive unless they are properly bubble wrapped. A regen is not going to save a dummy from taking several aoes at once, but I play a mini-game as a shield healer where my team is desperately trying to die, and I won't let them.

My favourite are the blms with 3+ stacks of vuln.

[Ursa_Vonfiebryd]

I am so guilty of this (not claiming my co-healer is not doing anything, but the overheal. Overshield?), but only when I'm playing noct stance or sch in the sb and shb alliance raids. I cannot, and will not, trust my team to survive unless they are properly bubble wrapped. A regen is not going to save a dummy from taking several aoes at once, but I play a mini-game as a shield healer where my team is desperately trying to die, and I won't let them.

My favourite are the blms with 3+ stacks of vuln.

What most people call overhealing, I call pre-emptive healing. I am a heal horse in most Duty Finder content because I generally do not trust other healers to know what they are doing (I know that sounds pretty rude but this theory has been proven correct about 80% of the time). However I do not get mad at the co-healer for spamming damage spells either. Mostly my only expectation is for them to help with raises if a large portion of us go down or some incidental aoe heals if our group proves to be a bit of a dumpster fire. And even if they made the decision to be a dmg dealer in the begining of the duty (making me main heals by default) I still wouldn't have said any snide at the end because throwing stones (ha) is their job, obviously. Complaining about solo healing when you absolutely did so by your own choice is stupid. And rude. That feels like they were fishing for comms. Or just attention.

[tdb]

I don't really trust randoms in duty finder either. It's best to heal everyone to 90% or more immediately after damage occurs. I'll give my co-healer a chance to use their heals, but if they don't fire them off in about two GCDs I'll follow up with more healing of my own. And if I'm playing noct AST (as I usually am in two-healer duties, unless my co-healer is SCH) I'll use AoE shields before a big raidwide, even if that means using a GCD or overhealing. Better safe than sorry.