Male Viera as a playable character! show your support

[Theodric]

Why give it away for free when you can keep charging $10 and people will pay for them regardless? Seems like the smart choice, though I doubt it would have hurt them much to give out a free fantasia.

My guess? It went the same way as veteran rewards. The system was even overhauled to make it 'fair' and yet it's exceptionally rare to see anything new to exchange achievement certificates for.

[zeylos]

Tbh seeing how Shadowlands is apparently doing really well and I can say from expirience it's a really well done expansion with a lot of potential, SE probs wants to lock on those preorders for their next expansion and what better way to do it that male viera and female hrotgar, its just a no brainer from a bussines standpoint. Also I really thik they should finish adding the helmets and some hairstyles to the current genders but lets be honest, it dosent sound nearly as 'exciting' to sell an expansion as them removing genderlock which would get them a ton of good press so I'm willing to bet they have probably done both. Also, we are meant to recieve information on 6.0 in February right?

[zeylos]

Why give it away for free when you can keep charging $10 and people will pay for them regardless? Seems like the smart choice, though I doubt it would have hurt them much to give out a free fantasia.

To be fair, while you obviously have a point there really is very few things that sell preorders as much as 'Look guys, we are adding the missing genders to this races by popular demand and finished our previous genders for the new races added with Shadowbringers, and not only that, but preorder the game now and you can change into them for free!' which would likely mean many ppl would preorder and a good amount of ppl would also likely change back after a while, but it is really unlikely they'd miss out on all that good fantasia money yeah

[Yencat]

Tbh seeing how Shadowlands is apparently doing really well and I can say from expirience it's a really well done expansion with a lot of potential, SE probs wants to lock on those preorders for their next expansion and what better way to do it that male viera and female hrotgar, its just a no brainer from a bussines standpoint. Also I really thik they should finish adding the helmets and some hairstyles to the current genders but lets be honest, it dosent sound nearly as 'exciting' to sell an expansion as them removing genderlock which would get them a ton of good press so I'm willing to bet they have probably done both. Also, we are meant to recieve information on 6.0 in February right?

I understand that you're excited about male Viera and I don't begrudge you that at all, but after how they launched the races in Shadowbringers (and how they still are) and explained why they made those decisions I'm not sure where you think they found the resources to fix the headgear situation, add the promised new faces, manes, and hairstyles, and add the other genders also in perfect working condition with all their own unique customization? And that's on top of whatever else they're doing in the expansion.

If they had those kinds of resources available we wouldn't be in this situation in the first place.

I imagine they will get a ton of pre-orders even if they don't add the 'missing' genders and didn't even touch Viera and Hrothgar though, most people are perfectly happy with what they have and are not all that invested in these races.

But yes we should hear the first news in February so, fingers crossed?

[zeylos]

I understand that you're excited about male Viera and I don't begrudge you that at all, but after how they launched the races in Shadowbringers (and how they still are) and explained why they made those decisions I'm not sure where you think they found the resources to fix the headgear situation, add the promised new faces, manes, and hairstyles, and add the other genders also in perfect working condition with all their own unique customization? And that's on top of whatever else they're doing in the expansion.

If they had those kinds of resources available we wouldn't be in this situation in the first place.

I imagine they will get a ton of pre-orders even if they don't add the 'missing' genders and didn't even touch Viera and Hrothgar though, most people are perfectly happy with what they have and are not all that invested in these races.

But yes we should hear the first news in February so, fingers crossed?

Yeah you obviously have a point and we have to wait until we hear more news since nothing is confirmed as of yet, and ofc I am not working on SE nor is anyone here (except the moderators I guess) so there really isn't a way for us to know what the resources, budget distribution employees etc etc are, but as much as the game wont die because of the missing genders, nor will it underperform at all, it is really likely that with the addition of those player models, not only would SE get a probably massive amount of good press (which is ofc very important when announcing a new expansion) but also lock in a good amount of both pre orders and fantasia sales, considering ti would be a great 'feature' to advertise the expansion with. The only expansion to lack a cool 'thing' to go with it so far is stormblood, since ARR was basically a new game Heavensward gave us Au Ra and Shadowbringers gave us 2 (severly limited) player models in the form of female viera and male hrothgar, so I would think/hope that for 6.0 they could use this as a way to advertise and promote the game. That being said, guess we will find out soon enough and fingers crossed

[CocoAthaela]

I do wonder what their plan is. It's safe to say that they treated the Hrothgar queen dirty.. Why design a storyline around them if they have no intent whatsoever to include the additions of female Hrothgar, or male Viera.

Does this mean we can expect the male Viera to be an Elezen with the Gold Saucer bunny ears attached?

[zeylos]

I do wonder what their plan is. It's safe to say that they treated the Hrothgar queen dirty.. Why design a storyline around them if they have no intent whatsoever to include the additions of female Hrothgar, or male Viera.

Does this mean we can expect the male Viera to be an Elezen with the Gold Saucer bunny ears attached?

I mean we may still see a female hrotgar in Bozja in 5.45 or maybe 5.5 but I do agree its quite strange that a story revolves around female hrotgar if they arent going to add them

[Yencat]

I mean we may still see a female hrotgar in Bozja in 5.45 or maybe 5.5 but I do agree its quite strange that a story revolves around female hrotgar if they arent going to add them

I doubt it considering he said this:

As you play through Shadowbringers, you’ll learn that both male Viera and female Hrothgar exist. While you won’t meet any in person, if we developers can find a way to address the various problems which are preventing us from implementing them, then perhaps someday you’ll be able to see them for yourself.

They exist, but we probably won't meet any this expac.

[zeylos]

I doubt it considering he said this:



They exist, but we probably won't meet any this expac.

Oh I didnt remember that. I really hope that they are added in 6.0 but I guess we will see. Imagine if the trailer shwos a male viera, I would die of hype lol. In all seriousness tho, I cant wait for February to come so we know if we will have them this expac or if its gonna be a super long time till they get added

P.D:
In this tweet they said: We've got something else in store ... We'll be announcing cool things.' So that gives me some hope I guess? Gonna keep my expectations grounded tho
Link to the tweet:
https://twitter.com/FF_XIV_EN/status...25139011280897

[Yencat]

Oh I didnt remember that. I really hope that they are added in 6.0 but I guess we will see. Imagine if the trailer shwos a male viera, I would die of hype lol. In all seriousness tho, I cant wait for February to come so we know if we will have them this expac or if its gonna be a super long time till they get added

P.D:
In this tweet they said: We've got something else in store ... We'll be announcing cool things.' So that gives me some hope I guess? Gonna keep my expectations grounded tho
Link to the tweet:
https://twitter.com/FF_XIV_EN/status...25139011280897

I mean, they wouldn't really lead with "Well, we're gonna be announcing mostly the same stuff so, eh?" haha, of course it'll be cool things!

But I'm also pretty excited for whatever they announce in February