So, about Coils and the MSQ Roulette.

[tdb]

Nah I've been able to solo every turn, it's no big deal if you know how to handle it.

Oh? Doesn't the boss of second coil third turn have a mechanic where two or three players need to stand together or it's an instant kill? Granted I don't remember if I've tried that at Lv80. I don't have PLD though, so can't cheat.

Edit: I don't remember if it's a true instakill or just really high damage. But the last time I tried it I wasn't able to figure out how to survive it alone.

[MicahZerrshia]

Oh? Doesn't the boss of second coil third turn have a mechanic where two or three players need to stand together or it's an instant kill? Granted I don't remember if I've tried that at Lv80. I don't have PLD though, so can't cheat.

Edit: I don't remember if it's a true instakill or just really high damage. But the last time I tried it I wasn't able to figure out how to survive it alone.

Someone *cough me cough* made a coil solo guide just recently. All the turns can be done easy, I think I know the one you are talking about but, no, they can all be easily solo'd, I did my own guides on dnc so I really didn't even have heals to fall back on.

Just look up Mica Does Stuff on youtube and you will find all the coil solo guides.

[Ayuhra]

I feel like some of these raids should have a story mode where you play through the encounters and get the story plus anything the story unlocks (like what happens after you get through the Omega stuff).

Trust system for them maybe? I'd be fine with them dropping less loot or even NO loot but with some of these, especially Coils and lately also maybe Eden, the story is uh...kinda hugely important.

[tdb]

Yeah, looks like second coil turn 3 is a cakewalk now. I didn't even get to the mechanic which requires multiple players. So it must have been at Lv70 I last tried it. And possibly as healer class; the DoT did a decent amount of damage even to me Lv80 RDM, so at Lv70 I might've needed Esuna and/or heals to counter it.

[LisSquid]

I feel like some of these raids should have a story mode where you play through the encounters and get the story plus anything the story unlocks (like what happens after you get through the Omega stuff).

Trust system for them maybe? I'd be fine with them dropping less loot or even NO loot but with some of these, especially Coils and lately also maybe Eden, the story is uh...kinda hugely important.

Oh, yes!! That would actually be ideal. As much as I love to run msq dungeons with friends, I started to do them first with Trusts due to the extra dialogue they would throw out.

[Kuroka]

IMO among the ARR revamp they should've made an easy mode that just drops the crafting items and no titels until maybe the final one, so itll be part of Raid roulett or could at least get its own coil roulett...

[MsMisato]

While Coils is personally fun and has a lot of filler content for Alisaie its optional because honestly while the majority of the coils are pretty cut and dry, the major fights in each grouping was a painful learning experience back and even now with the echo at level 50 and its not something you can easily blow through and people would simply abandoned after the first maybe the second wipe. (Twin, Nael, and Bahamut for example). These raids are still tough.

I for one am against coils in a roulette setting. The fights are a quite a challenge still at sync and I don't want to see them nerf it.

[BokoToloko]

Some of the issues with coils are more related with mechanics that are either unintuitive (i.e. Twintania's Twister) or excessively punishing (T9 Meteors and Golems) for full parties with no previous organisation and people who most likely won't have prepared to death with.

But I must confess a small part of me yearns for the chaos that T9 with no nerfs being snuck in Roulettes would bring.

[HyoMinPark]

I feel like some of these raids should have a story mode where you play through the encounters and get the story plus anything the story unlocks (like what happens after you get through the Omega stuff).

Trust system for them maybe? I'd be fine with them dropping less loot or even NO loot but with some of these, especially Coils and lately also maybe Eden, the story is uh...kinda hugely important.

At level 80, you can unsync and solo all the Coils, so it’s basically a story mode. Some you need to know how to handle certain mechanics, but they’re all very doable by any role at level 80.

[LisSquid]

At level 80, you can unsync and solo all the Coils, so it’s basically a story mode. Some you need to know how to handle certain mechanics, but they’re all very doable by any role at level 80.

The point is that at lvl 80 it doesn't matter. The context going into HW is already lost.

I have to change my stance here and agree that either a brief storymode or a Trust style version of coils would be ideal for this.