Castrum Lacus Litore declining participation

[technole]

I mean its not worth the effort or mettle loss to join castrum. I can get coins way quicker now via fates and CEs and clusters as a bonus since im not about cluster farming. It sucks because you can see the lack of foresight on the first implementation of bozja. The rewards need to match the time spent there at this point and they aren't planning to address until later or the next step in bozja.

Meddle loss in Castrum is the weakest excuse people ever give. Even those who are afraid to do the content.

Why? Say you die 2x in your first ever run at level 10. You know you are going to do more Skirmishes and CEs later anyway to do another run of Castrum, and that takes at-least 60 minutes to spawn another one. In that time you'll make up the loss in 1 CE, and probably be at level 11 by the next queue.

Even at level 15, all it takes is 1 CE to get back to the cap. Which doesn't matter, you're always 15 no matter what happens currently.

[Sarevok_Thordin]

It was way too early to give people a lazy way to get coins.

[Vahlnir]

It was way too early to give people a lazy way to get coins.

Eh, that was only part of the problem. The biggest issue was how unrewarding Castrum was to begin with. It needed, and still needs, more than coins and nearly impossible to get gear augments. Even without being able to grind coins from Fates and CEs it would have lost traffic regardless.

[WoW]

or nerf it so it can be done with no more than 16 players, or have the encounter difficulty scale with the number of participants

16 players can do it already.

[Shinklet]

16 players can do it already.

It's been done with a single party, don't hope on saving all prisoners though lol.

two parties, just a shred of co-ordination and it's doable. People are just lazy and want others to do the co-ordination for them.

[Vahlnir]

It's been done with a single party, don't hope on saving all prisoners though lol.

two parties, just a shred of co-ordination and it's doable. People are just lazy and want others to do the co-ordination for them.

I've been in there my fair share of attempts. Not once have I ever seen it done with less than 25. Any less than that simply aren't capable of killing the first boss(es), let along what comes next. This has been my experience.

[Reinha]

Eh, that was only part of the problem. The biggest issue was how unrewarding Castrum was to begin with. It needed, and still needs, more than coins and nearly impossible to get gear augments. Even without being able to grind coins from Fates and CEs it would have lost traffic regardless.

I agree with this. The average player is motivated by better PvE gear, glamours and collection items like mounts. Castrum offers outdated 495 gear, coins to buy augments which most people don't care about and an hour away from cluster farming. All for what? Negative mettle? There is no reason to run it except once for the story.

Monsters should have never been the best way to get clusters, fragments and memories.

[Seraphor]

I've been in there my fair share of attempts. Not once have I ever seen it done with less than 25. Any less than that simply aren't capable of killing the first boss(es), let along what comes next. This has been my experience.

Done it with 16. The Most I've ever done it with is 22.

[SturmChurro]

Please people. Remember the context of this thread. The OP is (or was) trying to complete it, first time. Sure, OCCASIONALLY, if you can even get 16 players, God forbid, 22, you can clear it. Especially if there are a few people who can lead the raid, and or parties and know what they are doing, and use their lost finds holster. Many of the players right now, are new. They probably haven't gotten a ton of forgotten fragments. For example, when I cleared it last for new people, people got lost, the fire was literally nuking parties because people were moving. We had to do that boss like 3 times. We nearly full wiped on the last one. We got a clear, because nobody decided to leave. This is not a common case, the most common case is. People don't bother with less than 24, or leave at the first wipe. If people had left during the first wipe, the Castrum I was a part of last would have NEVER been completed.

This is why every time I enter borzja to make gil now, I see new players desperate to get a clear in chat, literally begging people to join. Most of the time that never happens. A new player shouldn't have to wait until the weekend (and even that's iffy), or until they maybe get lucky. They should be able to clear it, and continue the story. People shouldn't even be getting clears with 16, people should be fighting for a spot to get in!

[WoW]

I've been in there my fair share of attempts. Not once have I ever seen it done with less than 25. Any less than that simply aren't capable of killing the first boss(es), let along what comes next. This has been my experience.

I have been in a PUG that did it with 18 people on the first week. We only died once at Lyon, but that was a coordination issue on which party goes top and we had a bunch of players that were new including me. Of course saving all prisoners was out of the question.