Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
I think your opinion may change when 6.0 rolls around and IF we get updates to these races it's just more of the same. If all we get after 2 years is just "more of the same", we will probably be too deep in, and I highly doubt viera/hrothgar will EVER get some kind of "fix".

I don't know about a "stay tuned" for male viera,
We will see, Im not one to make predictions, I judge things as they happen,not before they happen, especially not without tangable proof. I dont work off of theories very much, most of the time its just personal feelings on a matter...not too different from what I said.
The Stay tuned was for the fanfestival leading up to 5.0; the release of Shadowbringers when they showed off Viera. Somebody tried to ask about males.

Quote Originally Posted by Yencat View Post
That's what I'm saying though, I also think it would be better spending the time to actually fix it but if that's the case then why can that not be communicated? They strung people along on the technicality that they never gave a date for the future patches knowing people thought it would be 5.1, 5.2 etc. That's not being hasty, they worded it that way very carefully.

They don't need to send monthly updates but they've never even acknowledged that it's something that needs fixing, so why all the cloak and daggers when we know they can give a statement quickly if something was wrong and they need more time to fix it.

The Hrothgar situation is not "finding any little thing to complain about", it's straight up scummy and I've never seen another game do something like this unless there's no aesthetician system in the game so it works like that for every race.
Thats our fault for making that assumption, they never gave a date, so for any of us to think 'oh next major patch, or OH it should happen at this time' thats us as a playerbase saying it, not the devs. So while communication is nice, if they never report on it, they have nothing to say yet. Silent is better then a lie. And with how much they have been asked and harassed about headgear, I doubt that its something they are trying to ignore, because if its still being talked about after 2 years, then its something they 'should' fix. Missing Genders...idk. Id like Female Hrothgar, but it it WOULD be better to do something about the present issues first. Unless they can squash all issues at once.

"finding any little thing to complain about"
Im talking about them maybe addressing the issue and putting in a temp fix. People will still complain.
They hastily try to fix the issue and its half-cocked, but hey, they went through with the clipping they said they dont like...people complain
stuff like that.

Quote Originally Posted by Yencat View Post
This sums up the whole situation regarding both races perfectly, it is a giant waste. And the answer is SE.
No, a waste of time is if they made these races and then just delete them later as some people have posted.
Despite the issues there is still a healthy amount of people that still LOVE that Viera are in the game, and some people who are simply happy to finally have a playable Beast Race.
They have Plenty of room to improve (and NEED improvements) but alot of people enjoy them so far, and have been creative enough to work around glamour limitations.
They are not a waste of time.