It’s 2021 now and we still do not have Race Restrictions REMOVED from Hempen Clothes

[Vickii]

Problem with the ff community is they kinda ignore that on some topics such as this and job specific armour and gender locking things, that there’s just as many people in favour of that stuff as against.

I don’t like what highlanders got for the Hempen set. But I do like having race specific clothing and would like some more.

I guess this is why the devs aren’t changing it.

[HyoMinPark]

Problem with the ff community is they kinda ignore that on some topics such as this and job specific armour and gender locking things, that there’s just as many people in favour of that stuff as against.

While there are people on both sides of the fence (and I fail to see where anyone in this thread has said otherwise, but feel free to correct me here if I’m mistaken), when topics like this are brought up, more posts are in favor of unlocking the gear versus leaving them locked (at least when it comes to the hempen sets, and other gender-locked gear). Developers need to consider the majority when it comes to this topic: every time the hempen gear is brought up, the majority of responses in the threads tend to be in favor of unlocking them because there’s very little reason to leave them locked in the first place. They aren’t racially or culturally defining with regards to the races they are locked to, so why are they locked in the first place? It’s an arbitrary restriction if you have to reach for the reasons behind it.

If the developers want to design sets that are culturally appropriate for the specific races (or even clans, since different clans have different lore), then I’m fine with that if they can make the outfits fit in and be appropriate. However, the hempen sets do not have these aspects to them. Again, the Miqo’te and Au Ra hempen pantalettes don’t even cater to them having tails—i.e., they aren’t being racially defining. As it stands, though, this game tends to design based more on regions/city-states more so than races, since the regions contain multiple races and are not racially homogenized (even if some have races in the majority for regions).

[Vickii]

While there are people on both sides of the fence (and I fail to see where anyone in this thread has said otherwise, but feel free to correct me here if I’m mistaken), when topics like this are brought up, more posts are in favor of unlocking the gear versus leaving them locked (at least when it comes to the hempen sets, and other gender-locked gear). Developers need to consider the majority when it comes to this topic: every time the hempen gear is brought up, the majority of responses in the threads tend to be in favor of unlocking them because there’s very little reason to leave them locked in the first place. They aren’t racially or culturally defining with regards to the races they are locked to, so why are they locked in the first place? It’s an arbitrary restriction if you have to reach for the reasons behind it.

How do you know this? Because in a thread that says ‘unlock the items’ most people who post are in favour of it? Yes because this is kinda a non conflict community in the main. And if I were to post a ‘don’t unlock the items’ thread it would get attacked.

No offence but I can’t help believe that you’re the loud minority here. Many of us don’t want to see people walking around in silly clothes, it’s bad enough already tbh. A lot of these players are grown men with weird fetishes, and honestly there’s a lot of us would just rather the game stay away from this stuff.

[HyoMinPark]

How do you know this? Because in a thread that says ‘unlock the items’ most people who post are in favour of it? Yes because this is kinda a non conflict community in the main. And if I were to post a ‘don’t unlock the items’ thread it would get attacked.

By reading the threads on the topic? I don’t have enough hands to count how many times this thread has appeared on here. And I’ve read and/or participated in most of them. The majority of them—whether they’re for racially unlocked or racially exclusive—are for things being unlocked. The only sets I see that have the majority in favor of retaining their restrictions are the artifact gear for jobs. But the hempen sets? Most people that have participated in the discussions here are for it. Inb4, “the forums are a minority of the playerbase” argument appears, yeah, they are—but they’re the ones communicating the with the development team, so that’s what the development team has with regards to feedback.

No offence but I can’t help believe that you’re the loud minority here. Many of us don’t want to see people walking around in silly clothes, it’s bad enough already tbh. A lot of these players are grown men with weird fetishes, and honestly there’s a lot of us would just rather the game stay away from this stuff.

I want to point out the irony of you telling me that “many of us” don’t want to see people walking around in “silly clothes”, meanwhile I cannot even discern what your character is wearing as their headpiece in your avatar. Looks almost like the Gnath gear, but that’s not quite it. I don’t know, it looks a bit “silly” to me—but, unlike you and these others you’ve mentioned, I don’t give two flips about what others wear or put on their characters. And, last I checked, what about a halter top and pair of panties is “silly” or “a weird fetish”? These are gear pieces that were added in Legacy XIV. Well before all these “silly” glamour options you’re talking about.

How do you know “there’s a lot of us” that would rather the game stay away from “this stuff”? I wonder how you can say “most of us” when I see thread after thread on here asking for MORE glamour options—a lot of which aren’t “lore-friendly”, which is where I’m assuming you’re coming from. Again, the irony of you calling me the “loud minority”. Do you have anything to base this assessment on?

And what about these topics gives the impression that people for them are all “grown men with weird fetishes” in the first place? Sound to me like you’re just making baseless assumptions about people.

[Vickii]

By reading the threads on the topic? I don’t have enough hands to count how many times this thread has appeared on here. And I’ve read and/or participated in most of them. The majority of them—whether they’re for racially unlocked or racially exclusive—are for things being unlocked. The only sets I see that have the majority in favor of retaining their restrictions are the artifact gear for jobs. But the hempen sets? Most people that have participated in the discussions here are for it. Inb4, “the forums are a minority of the playerbase” argument appears, yeah, they are—but they’re the ones communicating the with the development team, so that’s what the development team has with regards to feedback.



I want to point out the irony of you telling me that “many of us” don’t want to see people walking around in “silly clothes”, meanwhile I cannot even discern what your character is wearing as their headpiece in your avatar. I don’t know, it looks a bit “silly” to me.

My character is wearing the New Year’s Eve hat from the New Year’s Eve quest, as it’s... new year.

That’s a bit difference from you having a bunny/cat/maid fetish.

[HyoMinPark]

My character is wearing the New Year’s Eve hat from the New Year’s Eve quest, as it’s... new year.

That’s a bit difference from you having a bunny/cat/maid fetish.

On my forum page, you’re actually not wearing a Heavensturn helmet. You’re wearing a headpiece from Hero’s Gauntlet on my screen. Which the face mask on reminds me of the Gnath gear. Hence why I mentioned irony at you talking about people running around in “silly” glamours while wearing something “silly” yourself. But the Heavensturn helmets could also be considered equally “silly”.

And it’s news to me that wanting the hempen set unlocked for all races because the restrictions are arbitrary equates to me having a bunny/cat/maid fetish. Or are you basing this assumption that I have a fetish simply because I play a female Miqo’te? As well as the assumption that I’m a male (news flash, I’m actually a chick). LMAO thanks for the laugh, dude. Sounds like someone got really offended when it came to my opinion being different from theirs.

[WhiteArchmage]

And what about these topics gives the impression that people for them are all “grown men with weird fetishes” in the first place? Sound to me like you’re just making baseless assumptions.

It's the same lackluster "argument" that's used for anything involving glamour options. Trying to claim some sort of "moral superiority" by painting the other side as perverts that only want X, Y, Z for seedy purposes when, really, it's just about OPTIONS. The way some posters paint it, the majority of the game is catgirls in their underwear idling in Limsa... (not to mention that if people actually wanted said stuff there's already plenty of mods)

I for one don't see my character as a sexual object but rather a reflection of how I like to look like and present as, and it falls on each individual how they'd like to present their character, be it elegant, fierce, urban, cheeky, "cool", sporty, or whatever.

[Vickii]

On my forum page, you’re actually not wearing a Heavensturn helmet. You’re wearing a headpiece from Hero’s Gauntlet on my screen. Which the face mask on reminds me of the Gnath gear. Hence why I mentioned irony at you talking about people running around in “silly” glamours while wearing something “silly” yourself. But the Heavensturn helmets could also be considered equally “silly”.

And it’s news to me that wanting the hempen set unlocked for all races because the restrictions are arbitrary equates to me having a bunny/cat/maid fetish. Or are you basing this assumption that I have a fetish simply because I play a female Miqo’te? As well as the assumption that I’m a male (news flash, I’m actually a chick). LMAO thanks for the laugh, dude. Sounds like someone got really offended when it came to my opinion being different from theirs.

Very odd. I see the heavensturn helmet. I can only imagine you’re talking about the crypt mask which is current tier for MCH.

I’m also a chick, and if I wanted to play the sims I’d play the sims. Many of us play this game seriously and not to dress up in Limsa and do whatever you guys do there.

But again this is my point, you get aggressive very quickly if anyone suggests your opinion is not the only one that matters so many of us stay quiet. But there’s no real evidence that you’re more representative of the fanbase than me.

[WhiteArchmage]

I’m also a chick, and if I wanted to play the sims I’d play the sims. Many of us play this game seriously and not to dress up in Limsa and do whatever you guys do there.

Girl, I said it as a joke and then you go and prove me right...

[Vickii]

Girl, I said it as a joke and then you go and prove me right...

But it’s true. Have you been to Limsa? It’s full of people with silly glamours doing ERP and god knows what.

And these people think they are the ‘community’ and everything should be catered to them. Whilst there’s a whole bunch of other cities where we wear the actual armour and stuff in the game and play it a bit more seriously.

Why do you feel that all of those opinions shouldn’t matter just because you shout a bit louder?